AA717driver
A simpler time...
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PB saves in end of the month trip drops due to conflicts in addition to vacation. Trip trades and drops weren't a factor in my experience but we had a different contract.
The REAL "savings" (read job losses) comes with Demand Staffing (as it was called at TWA). This allows total flexibility to pick up extra flying (to make up for pay cuts...) and allows for 10-50% fewer reserves.
The way it worked at TWA was that reserves (or line holders but the real benefit was for reserves) could pick up trips on their days off and get paid over RSV Guarantee. This sucked up the open time--ALL of it and reserves never flew on their days off. Some guys even had to go to the sim or get assigned trips to maintain currency. TWA was run pretty lean on manpower so you can see the effect of this system. AAslag can vouch for this as he sat reserve and didn't load up on open time.
There was little, if any open time for lineholders to trade trips or pick up trips. Reserve was very senior. Since TWA had tremendous attrition during that period, no one's career progression really suffered--noticably.
But you can see how an airline that is staffed properly for traditional bidding would suffer from stagnation if PB/DS is implemented. Attrition would only allow the full effect of DS to be implemented with virtually no career progression happening until 5-15% attrition had occured in the seniority list.
Unless you have significant attrition like AA will starting in 5 years or so or significant growth like SWA has had, PB/DS is NOT a good deal.TC
The REAL "savings" (read job losses) comes with Demand Staffing (as it was called at TWA). This allows total flexibility to pick up extra flying (to make up for pay cuts...) and allows for 10-50% fewer reserves.
The way it worked at TWA was that reserves (or line holders but the real benefit was for reserves) could pick up trips on their days off and get paid over RSV Guarantee. This sucked up the open time--ALL of it and reserves never flew on their days off. Some guys even had to go to the sim or get assigned trips to maintain currency. TWA was run pretty lean on manpower so you can see the effect of this system. AAslag can vouch for this as he sat reserve and didn't load up on open time.
There was little, if any open time for lineholders to trade trips or pick up trips. Reserve was very senior. Since TWA had tremendous attrition during that period, no one's career progression really suffered--noticably.
But you can see how an airline that is staffed properly for traditional bidding would suffer from stagnation if PB/DS is implemented. Attrition would only allow the full effect of DS to be implemented with virtually no career progression happening until 5-15% attrition had occured in the seniority list.
Unless you have significant attrition like AA will starting in 5 years or so or significant growth like SWA has had, PB/DS is NOT a good deal.TC