American the place to be in a few years?

[jmreii]

No, but probably better than Usairways.

AA

US airways may not be a good place to work but at least they don't have thousands of pilots on furlough hoping they never come back.

 

[Gator1999]

I've been going over the numbers at AAI. They roughly have 11,000 pilots with over 1000 on furlough. They haven't hired since 2000-2001. Assuming most majors avg age for a new hire pilot is 35, their avg age for the last new hires is around 44ish.

With the age 65 rule kicking in, it will be much longer before they hire. Plus with the 1000 furloughs, I would say it may take at least 5 years for them to hire again. Now, that avg age new hire is around 49 years old. So in theory if these guys/gals go until 65, they will have to replace 11000 pilots within 15 years.

Talking about movement!

Sounds eerily like what we all heard in 1999 about UAL regarding the people that were turning 60...looked how that turned out. Your assumption is a perfect world situation based on no other events like acts of terrorism or oil prices/shortages or airline mergers that may take place within the next 15 years that may affect air travel in some way. My point being, don't waste too many brain cells on it because it will all change and not work out the way you thought it would in the end.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

I was recently living in the UK in an 1,100 ft2 house with 3 bedrooms that rented for $2500 a month, and that was one of the biggest houses in the neighborhood. Others were paying a similar mortgage (or rent) for even smaller, older houses.

Where in the UK? you can't compare shallow gene pool USA with London, you have to compare it with a world class city like New York to be apples to apples. What can you rent for $2,500 in Manhattan?

 

[Mud Eagle]

Where in the UK? you can't compare shallow gene pool USA with London, you have to compare it with a world class city like New York to be apples to apples. What can you rent for $2,500 in Manhattan?

Out in the middle of nowhere in East Anglia. About 30 minutes from Cambridge.

I'm in the USAF, so it can't be too difficult to figure out what potential locations that might have been.

 

[Full of LUV]

Does AA have unlimited recall rights????

US airways may not be a good place to work but at least they don't have thousands of pilots on furlough hoping they never come back.

Do AA furloughees have unlimited recall rights, or is there some sort of 10 year limit? Otherwise, would it not seem that soon the company may just run out the clock before hiring any more than absolutely necessary?

 

[Snapperhead]

There is no time limit for recall anymore. It use to be 10 years; but that was negotiated away.

 

[Kugelblitz]

US airways may not be a good place to work but at least they don't have thousands of pilots on furlough hoping they never come back.

Why do you guys argue over who has the 'better' airline? They all suck, and it is no fault of anyone on this board (assuming airline management doesn't post here).

Pride in one's airline is like having pride over a prostitute. No airline or US company for that matter, feels any sense of loyalty or obligation to any of it's non-upper management employees, present and especially retired. So why would anyone get fired up about being Delta, Cal, Ual, Swa, or whatever?

Of course if you want to be a sucker and play management's game and go that extra mile (while you are operating under a concessionary or reduced pay and benefit contract) for the sake of getting a CEO's son or daughter a new $50,000 car or get them into a nice university, more power to you.

 

[list2002]

"Pride in one's airline is like having pride over a prostitute."

LMAO! I've flown with guys who brag about both.

 

[Vne]

If this industry is ever going to be a destination with any future then the RLA must be abolished.