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Smoked Toilet

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Hey guys,

Every time I walk away from my computer, it stops recording my "study" time. How does it do this? Any ideas on how to make it think you are actually there?

Thanks for the help.

ST
 
Did you Minimize it?

Hey let me know if it's a big hassle because I have to renew mine in a few weeks and am thinking about Gleim.
 
No. It's not minimized.

It counts all the time while I'm reading other web pages. But when I leave, it stops recording for some reason. Can it be sensing internet activity? I have no idea.

Otherwise, it's a pretty sweet deal.. $125 for lifetime renewals. Not to shabby.

ST
 
I just used the American Flyers CFI Renewal about a month ago, and yes, it seems that it stops logging time after about 10 minutes of inactivity. However, if you're in a chapter that has a video, it seems to keep logging time so long as the video is running, and the videos do seem to run continously until the user stops them. Bad news is there isn't a video in every chapter.
 
SEVEN said:
Did you Minimize it?

Hey let me know if it's a big hassle because I have to renew mine in a few weeks and am thinking about Gleim.

I used Gleim for my renewal last year and highly recommend it. Unfortunately I do not stay too busy with my CFI nowadays, so I plan on using Gleim again next year. It is less time consuming (and more interesting) that what Flyers can offer, less $$$$ than Jepp's version too.
 
Not sure how it worked, but I spend enough time on the computer anyways and got the course done in under a week taking my time. Pleased with the course, and for the price you can't beat it. And if you're not a practicing CFI, the information is useful.
 
I started doing my renewal with AF but it sucked.

I used the AOPA/JEPP one. It was more expensive but it was a much better program.

Wankel
 
just wiggle the mouse once every 5 to 10 minutes and your set. Another hint: when you go to take the test open the window twice, have the text stuff opened on one window and the test on another. Then you can flip back and forth to get the answers.

AF is worth it, one time fee and your good for life.
 
LearLove said:
just wiggle the mouse once every 5 to 10 minutes and your set. Another hint: when you go to take the test open the window twice, have the text stuff opened on one window and the test on another. Then you can flip back and forth to get the answers.

AF is worth it, one time fee and your good for life.

Guys , this is your CFI renewal! This is some serious stuff you don't want to mess with. You guys are the reason this industry sucks!































Just kidding! LOL, I bet you were wondering when THAT guy was gonna show up ;)

Wankel
 
AF is by far the worst renewal out there. Just a complete regurgitation of regs and AIMs. Gliem is the better one but way more expensive. I make copies of the data as I go trough it and then take the test. It does time out after 10 minutes and don't let it go over a couple of weeks as it will make you start all over again. You will have to call customer service to get it fixed. I can say the price is right, but that is a bout it. You get what you pay for.
 
Has anyone tried the Jepp renewal? I'd like to try it and was wondering how it compared to Gleim and AF. I've got the free for life gig from AF as well, but it really is basic. I haven't instructed in 7 years or so and I was hoping to actually learn something this time. In particular, the new rules mandated by the TSA... I literally know that there are some new rules and the TSA made them, that's about it.
 
Smoked Toilet said:
Hey guys,

Every time I walk away from my computer, it stops recording my "study" time. How does it do this? Any ideas on how to make it think you are actually there?

Thanks for the help.

ST


I just completed my 2nd renewal through American Flyers. I highly recommend AF and have no complaints. I pad a one time fee of $100 and renewals are free for life. I believe the onetime fee is now up to $150 but not sure. Each section requires a set amount of "Study Time" before the test link becomes available. You can't just log in and sit idle. I always minimize it and refresh it every 10 minutes or so while I'm doing other stuff online. If you don't know the answer to a question you are allowed to go back into the study area while taking the test. It's a no brainer and a simple renewal process for those who don't care to relearn everything all over and just want to keep their CFI ticket current.
 
I let my CFI Lapse, but bought the AF course 3 years ago. Can I Still renew it??
And to keep the time running just bump the mouse every 10 minutes, or dive deep in the bowels of the world of porn. That will waste enough time.
 
It has been pointed out in previous threads, but the Gleim renewal has no minimum study times. You can literally get through all 16 units in about 3 hours. I found the info to be quite good, and the site allows you to look up all the answers during the tests.

Not lifetime renewals, but for $100 every two years, and no required minimum study times, I was happy with Gleim.
 
sXeflyer said:
I let my CFI Lapse, but bought the AF course 3 years ago. Can I Still renew it??
Nope. You'll need a reinstatement checkride with a DE or if you're lucky enough to be friendly with the right Fed he can do it by paper alone.
 
how can you guys say the AF stinks, its the same info as everyother program. Are you guys that lazy? I've only used the AF system once as I usually have a local FED renew mine however several years ago he wasn't available and I was living out of state so I went with AF. Like I said 100 and its good for life.

Are you the same guys that pay ALL Atps 350 bucks to study ATP questions on a computer that you could read from a 35 dollar book? I'm by far not cheap, I don't mind spending extra where its called for but there is a definate diff between cheap and stupid spending.
 
Hey thanks for the info guys...I chose Gleim. I just finished the first 3 lessons in about an hour. It's great....no minimum time required to study. I just breezed right through it. From what I hear American Flyers requires you to spend hours and hours online. $99 bucks is worth getting it done and out of the way quick and easy.
 
Ah, I figure that even the FAA knows B.S. when they step in B.S. If they had a problem with it, they'd fix it, right?
 
Try this:

http://www.webattack.com/get/yrefresher.html

This Internet Explorer addon automatically refreshes websites for you. You can set it to refresh your pages at custom intervals or any predefined ones. Each browser window has its own refresh control available from the IE toolbar. handy for monitoring auctions, stocks or any other pages that change frequently.
 
I'm in the middle of the AF course right now, seems pretty standard to me. I completed my CFI renewal 2 yrs ago using the Jepp course. The two are basically the same. I think the Jepp course was a little more $$.

I think AF is just trying to corner the market on folks like us, just trying to keep the dang thing current, not really utilizing the ticket. Very smart in my opinion. Probably have gotten more "one time" payers like me than they would have ever gotten just doing the standard thing.

On a side note get this: I got a letter in the mail a couple weeks ago from Jeppesen. Letter basically said that their computer system, the one that stored all my personal info (including my name, ssn, address, etc.) had been hacked and data had been accessed without authorization. Luckily my credit card data is encrypted on their servers so according to Jeppesen, it should be safe. However I'm one of those people that still used my SSN for my certificate numbers. Jeppesen does not know what info was accessed or taken but basically the letter gave me the names and phone numbers of the three credit agencies to call and set up a credit watch on my name in case someone tries to apply for credit in my name. I have since changed both my pilot and instructor certificate numbers via the FAA's website. It only takes a couple of minutes. change your certificate number I suggest everyone take this opportunity to change their number now if you haven't done so. Unfortunately it took this circumstance to motivate me into action.
 
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Chalk me up as another endorsement for the American Flyers course. Yes, you have to do something to refresh it every 10 minutes, and yes I'm sure there are better systems out there. Who cares. I don't. The objective is to keep current and American Flyers does the trick.

I'm getting ready to renew for the third time and it's more satisfying every time I do it. I enjoy watching that $100 investment keep on giving. For those who say $150 every two years is no big deal--well, to each his own. To me, a hundred fifty bucks is a hundred fifty bucks. I can think of better things to do with that money every two years than watch slick CFI renewal animations online.

Contrary to what some say, the Am Flyers course really doesn't take much time and I personally don't find it be a hassle. I usually do it in one or two days in between other things.

If you like spending more money every two years, go with with Jepp or
Gleim.
 
Lebowski said:
If you like spending more money every two years, go with with Jepp or Gleim.

I agree, if I was a CFI as a career, I'd want to be the sharpest that I could. I'd gladly pay more for something that was better quality, after all it's a tax writeoff.

However, I'm not a CFI anymore, but I do want to stay current. To me, AF is great. Yes, the presentation sucks and I don't really learn anything, but it's just checking a box. I paid $100 4 years ago, and every time I renew my CFI it costs me nothing. To me that's a great deal.
 
When u are taking the section quizes for American Flyer you can open up two browsers and sign in twice. One browser would have all the text and the second when you sign in would be the test. So you can go back and review if you don't know an answer. You just keep minimizing back and forth. Test are the same every year for the last 6 years with just 1 or 2 question changes every other section.
 

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