America West/USAirways seniority list ??

[FR8mastr]

All I can say is good luck to all and I hope there is not any furloughs!

There are guys being furloughed, all the current 170 pilots at Airways are being shown the door.

 

[LearLove]

Learlove that Porky's sign is classic dude. Just saw it on tv the other nite, one of the more underrated flicks of our time.

I found it a about 3 years ago while snowed into my apartment in SYR one day. I was watching the movie on cable and surfing the net at the same time so it "yahooed" the movie and found a site with sign on it and copied it to here.

 

[LearLove]

There are guys being furloughed, all the current 170 pilots at Airways are being shown the door.

O hey look at this, another MDA guy. According to that Jetmonkey guy we have no bizz here. Fr8 how dare you post.

The MDA FA's are also getting the big screw too. AWA needs to hire FA's now and came to U and said lets just take furloughed U FA's so we don't have to hire from the street. U said OK until they figured that many of the senior u fa's are at MDA and would have to offer the AWA positions in senority order. The problem is that the FA's would leave faster than Rep could take the 170's thus MDA would be left without FA's. So the company went back to AWA and said to hire from the street and they would just furlough the current MDA FA's as planes leave and tried to cover their tracks but this week the FA group uncovered the U coverup. Just another big mess.

 

[Cactus73]

The latest on the table is DOH until 1979 (all US Air) then 1 for 1 after that.

U APL guys tacked on the bottom after 1 for 1.

All MDA guys (especially CEL MDA guys) are getting tossed out if the current U mec has their way.

TOTALLY UNTRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS NOTHING ON THE TABLE!!!!

Yes, I'm screaming because you have totally incorrect info.

The AWA MEC passed your MEC an offer along these lines. The two merger committee's had NOTHING to do with the offer. The AAA MEC unanimously rejected the offer and told the AWA MEC that they would like to let the two merger committee's formulate the list through the use of the ALPA administrative manual section 45. The transition agreement approved by both MEC's has conditions on the seniority integration process to be used, the timetable to negotiate a merged contract, and procedures for hiring furloughed AAA pilots at AWA.

The only thing the two merger committee's have done is to work on certifying the lists. PERIOD.

There are no offers on the table.

Where do you guys come up with these complete BS ratios and claim they are on the table?

 

[LearLove]

TOTALLY UNTRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS NOTHING ON THE TABLE!!!!

Yes, I'm screaming because you have totally incorrect info.

The AWA MEC passed your MEC an offer along these lines. The two merger committee's had NOTHING to do with the offer. The AAA MEC unanimously rejected the offer and told the AWA MEC that they would like to let the two merger committee's formulate the list through the use of the ALPA administrative manual section 45. The transition agreement approved by both MEC's has conditions on the seniority integration process to be used, the timetable to negotiate a merged contract, and procedures for hiring furloughed AAA pilots at AWA.

The only thing the two merger committee's have done is to work on certifying the lists. PERIOD.

There are no offers on the table.

Where do you guys come up with these complete BS ratios and claim they are on the table?

easy there champ, take the word "table" out and put in something else. If i'm not mistaken it was in one of thoes ALPA update emails. Geez.

 

[Cactus73]

easy there champ, take the word "table" out and put in something else. If i'm not mistaken it was in one of thoes ALPA update emails. Geez.

Just a little emotional because false rumors tend to spread like wildfire amongst the pilot group and do way more harm than good.

The ALPA update was from one of your LEC's. They basically talked about what went on during the PIT meeting and how they rejected the seniority offer from the AWA MEC.

Since they rejected the offer and no new ones were made - There is NOTHING on the table.

I urge you to call members of the merger committee at AAA or AWA and they will tell you the same thing. They want to certify the lists according to ALPA merger policy before they even begin talking integration.

This could be a long process. We are all along for the ride.

 

[LearLove]

I urge you to call members of the merger committee at AAA or AWA and they will tell you the same thing. They want to certify the lists according to ALPA merger policy before they even begin talking integration.

This could be a long process. We are all along for the ride.

I should be getting my furlough notice for Nov. sometime next week, I really don't think the AAA merger committee gives a crapola what I think. Its almost "Game Over" time for LearLove.

O and BTW, as if its just par of the course, we MDA guys were due about 2 months of furlough pay but now the company says NO to that. And to top it off there is potential for us PA state guys that they (the state) could deny us unemployment for several reasons because of the situation with Rep/J4J.

 

[LearLove]

Sorry to hear that you are getting furloughed, but why didn't you take the job offer at CHQ?

because as a group, we MDA guys are standing together until the results of the arbirtation come out. If we win then good (however that opens another can of worms) if we don't win then each MDA guy can decide for himself if they want to go if the offer is still available which in itself is but another can of worms among many others.

 

[FR8mastr]

All Or None!!!!

 

[RichardFitzwell]

THERE IS NOTHING ON THE TABLE!!!!

Cactus,

Thank you for answering my original question.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Why does everyone keep saying that America West is buying US?


A group of investors are buying both company's!!! Without the investors neither airline had a great chance of surviving.

No one AIRLINE is buying the other.

Not true partner. Now I know how you feel so I won't throw gasoline on an already burning fire. It's true regarding the investors but keep in mind who and what they are loaning to. AAA couldn't secure financing of that magnatude on their own. It was AWA management that did that. Now concering our CEO making statements of our demise in the failure of this merger. Doug is pretty good at painting a dim picture in order to scare workers into package that he desires. The truth is we were and are posting profits and companies that are doing that just don't file bankruptcy the next yr!! Doug enjoys reading his own press, don't believe the hype...

WD.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Whiskey!! Glad to see yer still around, haven't heard from you in a while....

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Whiskey!! Glad to see yer still around, haven't heard from you in a while....

Thanks Grog, yeah I am still around. Been busy inhouse with our board. You know how it is!!

WD.

 

[Fly-n-hi]

Go to Yahoo Aviation, WSJ, or New York Times news and type in these key words: America West + Aquiring + US Airways and you'll find several articles explaining the fact that America West is aquiring US Airways.

Case closed.

 

[Focus]

I heard AAA Pilots will be hired by AWA and retain all their benefits from longevity to Non Rev Passes. Is this true? Is AWA really hiring the AAA furloughees in place of the guys in the pool? Are the AAA New Hires at AWA going to be able to retain their recall rights at USAIR?

What about this Rumor. Anybody with an answer would be considerd more informed then the AAA furloughees.

KUMBIYA.......