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Am I The Only One Left?

crj567

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I guess I must be the only airline employee left who thinks it is a total D-Bag move to not tip the van driver after he does a good job getting you around safely, then carefully places your bags right at your feet for your use.

-WTF, People? When did it become O.K. to not tip these guys? (Just $1 per ride-is that really too much?)
 

USCtrojan

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I guess I must be the only airline employee left who thinks it is a total D-Bag move to not tip the van driver after he does a good job getting you around safely, then carefully places your bags right at your feet for your use.

-WTF, People? When did it become O.K. to not tip these guys? (Just $1 per ride-is that really too much?)

And these same people (non tippers) wonder why the van driver won't take them anywhere once settled in at the hotel!?!?!?!?

Trojan
 

Beergut

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I guess I must be the only airline employee left who thinks it is a total D-Bag move to not tip the van driver after he does a good job getting you around safely, then carefully places your bags right at your feet for your use.

-WTF, People? When did it become O.K. to not tip these guys? (Just $1 per ride-is that really too much?)

It must be whom you're flying with lately. I always tip unless they don't get their lazy a$$ out from behind the steering wheel and most of the crewmembers I've flown with do the same.
 

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if the van is not there within 15 minutes - no tip.

if he doesn't get out to load the bags - no tip.
 

Dick Cabeza

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I love guys that intentionally don't tip the driver, then they BITCH when the van takes forever to pick them up at the mall or gym that the driver took them to. Or when its -10 out and the van takes an hour to get them at the airport.

Remember your not tipping as much for the drivers pocketbook, buy for your QOL. These drivers remember what crews take care of them, AND which ones do not. And I will personally tip the driver if one of my crew does not, because I do not want these cheap ba$tardsscrewing up my QOL. You just don't let them fly any legs till they pay you back...LOL
 

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I dont tip if I have to wait more than about 10 minutes and they dont load my bags. If they get there after a short wait and load our bags, I always tip.
 

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I tip when I have money....which is rare.
 

LazyLightnin'

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Times are tough, knucklehead.

If I have cash, I tip. But at the rate of four 4 days a month, that's almost 300 hundred bucks a year. For a 10 year captain like yourself, that's pocket change... But not for the rest of us.
 

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If he loads/unloads the bags he gets tip. If he doesn't then he doesn't. If he drives me to/from a restaurant thats a no tip. It's his job to drive the van, that's what he gets paid for. It's not his job to load and unload bags, that's what he gets tipped for.
 

crj567

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It must be whom you're flying with lately. I always tip unless they don't get their lazy a$$ out from behind the steering wheel and most of the crewmembers I've flown with do the same.

Right with you-

I have the exact same criteria. I rarely see a driver who won't get the bags, but they do exist (and they get nothing from me, either.) I am just amazed at the number of people I see not tipping (and many of these people are the ones who have a mommy and daddy who shelled out 200k for their schooling-most of these guys ain't broke-their trust fund is far fatter than my bank account-and their new 'vette looks pretty nice as well.)

These drivers are doing exactly the same thing as a waiter/waitress. They work for very little money, and really rely on tips. 90% of the time, my driver is polite and safe, and he usually hands my specific bags right to me. I consider this great work-and I don't mind throwing a buck his way (and not being a complete cheapskate tool.)

It is no wonder that so many everyday people have such a low opinion of pilots in general. I have been on vans many times with two or three crews-(totaling 9 or 10 people,) and seen only $2 come out of the whole group!
 

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I've been caught without cash. Feels like crap when the guy is waiting for you at the airport and throws your bags around.

I will pay the $2.50 fee at an ATM to avoid leaving these guys without a tip.
 

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if the van is not there within 15 minutes - no tip.

if he doesn't get out to load the bags - no tip.



I dont tip if I have to wait more than about 10 minutes and they dont load my bags. If they get there after a short wait and load our bags, I always tip.

It may not be the driver's fault if they're late.
 

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waka

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Do the pax tip you for getting them to their destination safely????

No. Flying pax is not even comparable to driving a hotel van. Tips are essentially to encourage great service. As a pilot (if you're not corporate/charter), sometimes you don't even see the pax. I hope you don't expect a tip to do your job. What's your point again?
 

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No. Flying pax is not even comparable to driving a hotel van. Tips are essentially to encourage great service. As a pilot (if you're not corporate/charter), sometimes you don't even see the pax. I hope you don't expect a tip to do your job. What's your point again?

And here I thought the van driver's job was to drive you to and from the airport and not collect one dollar bills.
 

crj567

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Do the pax tip you for getting them to their destination safely????

-Do I handle their bags?

-Driving the van is the van guy's primary job. Getting the bags out and remembering which ones belong to whom is a very nice bonus-that is the reason I tip.

-Have some class, we need to represent our profesion well-especially these days.
 

xjgearbtch

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The company has set up transportation for the crewmembers. They negotiate and PAY for the services that will be required. Our contract states that if food is not available, the hotel will provide transportation to meet the dietary needs of the crew.
When Joe the sales man takes a client out to dinner does he tip the server with his own money? NO! He adds it to the company expense report. When my airline reimburses me for tips to van drivers I will tip them. I don't pay to work, I work to get paid.
PS I waited tables for over 10 years, I know how tipping works. I always tip 20%+ because they have to claim it all. Unless you pay for the meal with a card and tip with cash, then uncle sam won't know :).
Van drivers don't submit weekly tip reports to the hotel for tax purposes. If they don't get taxed on it, it's not a legal source of income.
 

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And here I thought the van driver's job was to drive you to and from the airport and not collect one dollar bills.

It can also be said that a bartenders job is to make and serve their customers' drinks, not collect one dollar bills.
 
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