Altitude deviations

[mule]

Along the same lines...if a crew commits a "violatable" (is that even a word?) offense, do you ask them to call you or can they just get blindsided a few weeks later with a call from the FAA or their Chief Pilot?

 

[flytheblue]

This is an old post, but I just read it!
I'm curious out this one myself- is there any discussion before paperwork is filed (phone call after landing, etc), or will the flight crew find out without prior notice?

 

[mule]

From the stories I have heard, ATC has told the crew to call 1-800-UR-SMOKED...but wanted to get the "official" word from FI.

 

[Citrus1]

If ATC doesn't give you a phone number they can still violate you, although The brasher doctrine applies.

Essentially if you get a phone number you'll fill out a NASA or ASAP report, and you're (usually) covered. If they don't give you a number (as they're required to do) AND you get a LOI, you can still receive a NOPCA (notice of proposed certificate action).

You argue (or your attorney argues) with the Brasher Doctrine and you get the same privileges as if you did fill out a NASA form. click here for an article that may clear it up.

Ive asked for more phone numbers from controllers than Ive gotten. I just wish I could talk on the the phone to the actual controller...

 

[mule]

Great article! Thanks for helping to clear that up...

 

[dapilot]

how often do approach radars update?