ALPA votes 18 to 1 to throw out AAA/AWA award!

[PHXFLYR]

You really believe your garbage don't you? Wrong on every point. Your not benefiting from east retirements in this so called award? Really? Who is paying the price for those? I submit east pilots stapled below you. Your own CEO never undergirded your delusion that you saved us, never. Now your rabid with entitlement. You got lucky with some lunatic who ratified your
greed inside a framework that should work for everybody and a whole lot of
pilots out east are really p-ssed. Apparently 14-1(awa) national ilk know
that their flight pay loss might be in jeopardy if they don't right this wrong.

This list will NEVER stand and is not worth the paper it is printed on, so like I said before, don't go buying that captains house. Take S_itsall to the park
and throw frisbee with him or something else.

For arguements sake even if you saved us and you did not, do we owe you?
You wanna get paid. You where hanging on to a thread also, a training camp for Southwest, and a scab operation down under, so the hell with you also.

Never mind the meds... too late for that. I suggest you seek professional help
Anger management specialist maybe?? Oh,and bring some of your US East buds with you,OK?


PHXFLYR

 

[d328pilot]

I wouldn't be so sure.

ALPA National is feeling A LOT of heat these days being portrayed as a powerless/outdated entity (with the overwhelming evidence that back up those accusations).

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is the fight they decide to sink their teeth into.

For ALPA to overturn this would be the end of ALPA. In every other business arena (including the airlines) when you agree to binding arbitration, you have NO recourse. IF this were overturned, the lawsuit from the HP pilots would financially ruin ALPA. (rightfully so)

 

[PHXFLYR]

Entitled to our east retirements. We brought that to this party.
You don't believe you saved us yet you intimate in your post we would not have the chance to come back unless AWA got involved. East furloughed should benefit from east retirements out east. Conditions and restrictions, fences. My personal business is just that personal. Yes I am furloughed, and yes I have bypassed recall. Probably will never come back, but have my convictions and principles and am quite bored at the moment on a long dull layover.

By the way, get a real scoot, ride a Harley.

Yet another one that "bypassed recall" so they could "probably never come back." Jeez,I wish you "ladies" would make up your minds already What little that might be left of them ......



PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

You will never be able to make the East guys happy.

Can I get an " Alleluial !!! " from the choir????


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

That's right 737Plt when you're as big as me you don't need to compensate. Unlike someone we all know .

Hey,make sure you talk nice about Billy's "girlfriend " General Lee, now. OK?

PHXFLYR

 

[LearLove]

I suggested this back in the UAL/AAA merger fiasco days then again during the MDA/Republic deal and I'll say it again now. Yes boys and girls its time for a GIANT STEEL CAGE MATCH.

First we pick a neutral are between East (coast) and West(PHX), say MEM (the FDX guys could preside over it). Then we build a giant steel cage and put everyone on the list (AAA/AWA) inside.

First guy to go down gets the last place on the list - Last guy standing gets sen#1. Everyone else gets placed in order they get knocked out. Sound good?? Maybe even sell tickets and carry it HBO PPV so we could make some $$$.

 

[vtwin]

Can I get an " Alleluial !!! " from the choir????


PHXFLYR

5 posts in 25 minutes and you have yet to say anything more
intelligent than a third grader. Still an impulsive spaz, huh?
The chicks must really dig you.

 

[vtwin]

That's right 737Plt when you're as big as me you don't need to compensate. Unlike someone we all know .

Thats right, what are you? 6'3" 220lbs and what, probably 3"? A real badass I'm sure.

 

[PHXFLYR]

5 posts in 25 minutes and you have yet to say anything more
intelligent than a third grader. Still an impulsive spaz, huh?
The chicks must really dig you.

Yes they do...including your girlfriend !!!!!




PHXFLYR

 

[vtwin]

Yes they do...including your girlfriend !!!!!




PHXFLYR

Oh boy Capt. Cornball, you really got me with that one, quick on the comebacks, very witty. I can hear you giggling with excitement now....Tell me, do you find your crew always ditches you on a layover?
Hmmmm, I wonder?

Later

 

[Wiskey Driver]

HA HA HA HA HA HA! This coming from someone who has a kitty kat as his avatar!:laugh: :laugh:

737

Oh no!! They let you back out of your cage huh :laugh: I see your girl friend Scope out RJ's was here fighting for her man or woman:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Welcome back bro, now try and behave yourself...

WD.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Ahh no it won't!!

You see, I am in favor of the EC interfering with this award that way when the 1900 DFR law suits are filed and ALPA goes bankrupt that will mark the end of corrupt unions. Every pilot for themselves just like sports figures. We can negotiate our own salaries and benefit packages. Prater's days are marked so start counting.

WD.

Hahha. That's funny. Athletes have agents. Agents cost alot of money. If most atheletes had to negotiate their own contracts, they would get raped at the table.

Same can be true for pilots... oh wait, many pilot HAVE been singing the "me, me, me" song for years now. Look what happened.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

At most the integration might be tweaked a little. Both sides agree to slightly higher fences and maybe a 3/1 bid on wide bodied flying for a few years. This will be done just to create the impression that the east has won something. ALPA national will not void an arbitrators decision when both sides agreed to binding arbitration. At the end of the day the east will go along with the integration and move on. They didn't take draconian concessions and loss of their pensions just to lose it all over a ratio list integration.

We won't even do that!! The time to negotiate a deal was over a year ago. They refused and now since it has not gone DOH then they want to hijack the west pilot group. Well a resolution was put forth and passed to do no deals that in any way alter the list. No fences or anything else will be put in place. The east stands to gain the most from a joint contract collecting the lion's share of the economics in a new contract.

Now ALPA will either do as outlined in section 45 of the alpa merger policy and defend this binding and final award or be served 1900 DFR lawsuits!! They have no grounds to stand on or even ask. Not single AWA pilot will give one inch!! The want to burn it down?? I'll bring the gasoline, It's the priciple of muthaF&er now!!!

WD.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Oh boy Capt. Cornball, you really got me with that one, quick on the comebacks, very witty. I can hear you giggling with excitement now....Tell me, do you find your crew always ditches you on a layover?
Hmmmm, I wonder?



Later

No layovers for me ....jr reserve. That's what happens when you check out as Capt after being with your company for only 6 months. But hey. that's allright. I'm only 24 years old. I have plenty of time......


PHXFLYR

 

[Wiskey Driver]

I wouldn't be so sure.

ALPA National is feeling A LOT of heat these days being portrayed as a powerless/outdated entity (with the overwhelming evidence that back up those accusations).

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is the fight they decide to sink their teeth into.

Especially when it comes to AWA...the perceived red headed step child of the airline industry. Visions of Doug doing a carpet dance on Capital Hill come to mind...

You livin in a dream world JT!!! Any heat they are feeling is that of losing all of ALPA in a federal DFR case and over 1900 of them would certainly mark the end of alpa. Here's the story line

Today in the eastern district federal court Judge so an so issued his ruling in the over 1900 DFR suits filed on behalf of the America West pilots. Capt John Prater had this to say. "It's a sad day for ALPA, as we will be forced to bring to an end after over 75 years of service this fine institution". There's the real heat JT!! Can you feel it?? We all will if section 45 is not followed...

WD.

WD

 

[PHXFLYR]

We won't even do that!! The time to negotiate a deal was over a year ago. They refused and not since it has not gone DOH then they want to hijack the west pilot group. Well a resolution was put forth and passed to do no deals that in any way alter the list. No fences or anything else will be put in place. The east stands to gain the most from a joint contract collecting the lion's share of the economics in a new contract.

Now ALPA will either do as outlined in section 45 of the alpa merger policy and defend this binding and final award or be served 1900 DFR lawsuits!! They have no grounds to stand on or even ask. Not single AWA pilot will give one inch!! The want to burn it down?? I'll bring the gasoline, It's the priciple of muthaF&er now!!!

WD.

Yeah....what he said.


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

We won't even do that!! The time to negotiate a deal was over a year ago. They refused and not since it has not gone DOH then they want to hijack the west pilot group. Well a resolution was put forth and passed to do no deals that in any way alter the list. No fences or anything else will be put in place. The east stands to gain the most from a joint contract collecting the lion's share of the economics in a new contract.

Now ALPA will either do as outlined in section 45 of the alpa merger policy and defend this binding and final award or be served 1900 DFR lawsuits!! They have no grounds to stand on or even ask. Not single AWA pilot will give one inch!! The want to burn it down?? I'll bring the gasoline, It's the priciple of muthaF&er now!!!

WD.

Yeah....what he said !!


PHXFLYR

 

[Wiskey Driver]

Hahha. That's funny. Athletes have agents. Agents cost alot of money. If most atheletes had to negotiate their own contracts, they would get raped at the table.

Same can be true for pilots... oh wait, many pilot HAVE been singing the "me, me, me" song for years now. Look what happened.

We also have agent's and still have been getting raped at the tables so really, what's the difference??

WD.

 

[Wiskey Driver]

No layovers for me ....jr reserve. That's what happens when you check out as Capt after being with your company for only 6 months. But hey. that's allright. I'm only 24 years old. I have plenty of time......


PHXFLYR

OK the BS flag is flying now:laugh:

WD.

 

[JT8D]

You livin in a dream world JT!!! Any heat they are feeling is that of losing all of ALPA in a federal DFR case and over 1900 of them would certainly mark the end of alpa. Here's the story line

Today in the eastern district federal court Judge so an so issued his ruling in the over 1900 DFR suits filed on behalf of the America West pilots. Capt John Prater had this to say. "It's a sad day for ALPA, as we will be forced to bring to an end after over 75 years of service this fine institution". There's the real heat JT!! Can you feel it?? We all will if section 45 is not followed...

WD.

WD

Well that is par for the course...a sh1t box organization like AWA that gave away their panties voluntarily to management for 20 years bringing down ALPA...but that is the ways of the airline world these unfortunate days...