ALPA to uphold and defend AAA/HP seniority list

[ultrarunner]

One things for certain...it'll be LONG time before a working-group agrees to binding arbitration again...IMHO.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

Which might mean that MEC's will work harder to resolve their differences so it might be a good thing.

 

[JT8D]

One things for certain...it'll be LONG time before a working-group agrees to binding arbitration again...IMHO.

One other thing is for certain...once mixed cockpits start it's gonna make the old NWA Red book, Blue book, Green book days look like a trip to the local Dairy Queen..

 

[Bringupthebird]

I doubt anyone will voluntarily cross the Great Divide. Base shrinkage might force the issue, but I think US management will think long and hard before they do that.

 

[Fast43]

Which might mean that MEC's will work harder to resolve their differences so it might be a good thing.

Work Harder??????????????


We tried to work hard and Negotiate. AAA MEC would have none of it......DOH, sonny, thats the only way this can go.

We tried to work hard in Mediation. AAA MEC would have none of it........DOH, sonny, thats the only way this can go.

We tried to work hard in Arbitration. (as did the Arbitrator) AAA MEC would have none of it...........DOH, sonny (and you too old man) thats the only way this can go.


You need to ask your own AAA MEC why they worked so hard to arrogantly demand something so unrealistic.

As your rank and file are finding out. Your MEC wrecked alot of good will with their Preposterous demand of DOH.

How can you with a staight face say that AAA guys, Days away from liquidation, deserve all upgrades for the forseeable future and AWA guys, growing and hiring, deserve ALL the possible furlough risk for the forseeable future.

And now you want to work hard and negotiate.

I'm sure you do!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Larcifer]

Doesn't really matter what came out of arbitration if Good old USAirways is liquidated does it? You boys had better start figuring out how to play in the sandbox or your all going to be on the bottom of a list somewhere, can you say "newhire".

 

[PHXFLYR]

In regards to "figuring out how to play nice in the sandbox"; We figured it out long ago. The easties ,on the other hand haven't got a clue!!


PHXFLYR

 

[Larcifer]

In regards to "figuring out how to play nice in the sandbox"; We figured it out long ago. The easties ,on the other hand haven't got a clue!!


PHXFLYR

Doesn't really matter who has a clue when there's not a sandbox left to play in now does it?

 

[eaglefly]

Doesn't really matter who has a clue when there's not a sandbox left to play in now does it?

The question is, is WHICH group advocated peeing in the sand ?

Sounds to me like the U MEC are the "sand pissers".

 

[PHXFLYR]

Ding ding ding.."We have a winner!! Johnny,tell our contestant what he's just won....."


PHXFLYR

 

[Larcifer]

Ding ding ding.."We have a winner!! Johnny,tell our contestant what he's just won....."


PHXFLYR

I don't care who is right or wrong I'm just saying as a collective your going to end up with squat if you can't come to a more amicable agreement. Actually the rest of the industry would welcome the demise of USAirways. Keep up the hardline your doing the rest of us a favor.

 

[BoilerUP]

Keep up the hardline your doing the rest of us a favor.

Whose hardline stance caused the current "situation", again?

 

[PHXFLYR]

Don't confuse the old hippie with the facts. He's "Comfortably Numb"(just look at his avatar )and probably incapable of figuring it out right now.

PHXFLYR

 

[ferlo]

Doesn't really matter who has a clue when there's not a sandbox left to play in now does it?

Who cares if it goes out of business? I'd rather start over than let the East Side shove their idea of a fair list up my....you know.

 

[cactusboy53]

ALPA merger policy specifically states that when an award is delivered by the arbitrator (Section 45; H; 5; b and I; 1):

• Award of the Arbitration Board shall be final and binding on all parties.
• The arbitration and shall be defended by ALPA.
• The merged seniority list will be presented to management and ALPA will use all reasonable means at its disposal to compel the company to accept and implement the merged seniority list.

This seems to be rather CUT and DRIED to me. Failure to do anything other that what is stated in the ALPA bylaws is an invite for serious legal problems. What about all of the other mergers?

I think there will be a SMALL percentage of West pilots willing to go to the "City of Brotherly Love" if for no other reason than the rants and attitudes. A small number of East pilots will transfer to PHX or LAS for quality of life. You guys will largely get your East upgrades....Why don't you give it a shot??