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johnsonrod said:
... So, if you want to get to India or North Africa from the West Coast, why take an Amercian airline or one of the Middle Eastern-based goliaths?
WHY, REALLY???

If for some reason I need to fly to some third-world $hit-hole, it won't be on on that countries national airline. It'll be on a US flag carrier or I'll stay home.

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Wow. Emirates crews stay at 4-star hotels in 3rd world countries. That's so revolutionary. I wonder if any legacy crews can do that.
 
...and the resulting service for the paraphilia fan.

In a related note MXP-DXB just launched officially.

Extract.

"Operating a trans-Atlantic route has been on our agenda for some time. Having carefully monitored traffic flows we have identified strong demand for both a direct connection and, importantly, for the Emirates product. The route is currently underserved, particularly with a strong premium product offering this is where we see a clear opening for Emirates. We intend to capitalise on this opportunity, stimulating further demand and encouraging additional traffic flow in both directions,? said Tim Clark, President Emirates."

If this works....and it multiplies as the full article implies...EK premium product and inflight service will seriously damage the competition. Only a matter of time before the A380 takes it and other TATL.

US carriers better start building suites, showers and bars.

Perfect timing for a night out in NY from our Midtown hotel... ; >

fv
 
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General Lee said:
As long as unions, voters, and lobbyists can influence Congress members, it won't happen here. One Congressman from an airline hub city can throw a wrench in any foreign plan. Sorry Sugarsugar. Have fun in Dhaka.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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hahaha
 
Andy said:
How would ALPA fatten their piggy bank by caving? Is Emirates simply going to write ALPA a check for $100 million?

Obama administration supportive? Says who? Bush administration was supportive of the Dubai Ports World sale - how'd that work out?
By the way, Obama opposed the Dubai Ports World sale. In his opposition, Senator Barack Obama stated 'we're allowing our port security to be outsourced to foreign governments' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy

Finally, again, JFK-MXP does NOT meet traditional criteria for granting 5th freedom rights. It is not an underserved route.

sugar, Why do you never provide proof of your claims?
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I love how people are just the authority on everything. You want proof, check the news today.
 
fareview said:
...and the resulting service for the paraphilia fan.

In a related note MXP-DXB just launched officially.

Extract.

"Operating a trans-Atlantic route has been on our agenda for some time. Having carefully monitored traffic flows we have identified strong demand for both a direct connection and, importantly, for the Emirates product. The route is currently underserved, particularly with a strong premium product offering this is where we see a clear opening for Emirates. We intend to capitalise on this opportunity, stimulating further demand and encouraging additional traffic flow in both directions,? said Tim Clark, President Emirates."

If this works....and it multiplies as the full article implies...EK premium product and inflight service will seriously damage the competition. Only a matter of time before the A380 takes it and other TATL.

US carriers better start building suites, showers and bars.

Perfect timing for a night out in NY from our Midtown hotel... ; >

fv
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I just saw Detla's mockup display of their new business class suite in JFK, it looked like a dentist chair. They have a long ways to go before they can compete with the premium market. First thing they have to get rid of is their FA attitude toward customers
 
General lee and Andy are prime examples why pilots make the worst stock traders...even when they were wrong, instead of cutting their losses and moving on, they still think of excuses why they are right, until the blow up their account
 
8sugarsugar said:
General lee and Andy are prime examples why pilots make the worst stock traders...even when they were wrong, instead of cutting their losses and moving on, they still think of excuses why they are right, until the blow up their account
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But we didn't have to move to the Sandpit. We will retire from American legacies, which will retire tons and pay more than in the past. Game, set, match.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
General Lee said:
But we didn't have to move to the Sandpit. We will retire from American legacies, which will retire tons and pay more than in the past. Game, set, match.


Bye Bye---General Lee
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I didn't HAVE to move here, I chose to. We will see how it works out on our respective retirement dates after a clear career path is known. Until then, everything is an unknown so there is no point in arguing or debating which career path is better. This game is not over until you actually retire. To assume otherwise is extremely arrogant.
 
Varmint said:
I didn't HAVE to move here, I chose to. We will see how it works out on our respective retirement dates after a clear career path is known. Until then, everything is an unknown so there is no point in arguing or debating which career path is better. This game is not over until you actually retire. To assume otherwise is extremely arrogant.
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I know your story Varmint, and you wanted out of your Regional at a time when Legacies weren't hiring, and infact they were all going BK. The last decade did suck for most pilots here in the States. But, after the dust clears, consolidation has brought the Legacies to a more profitable stage, and a healthier one. Stability is built within FEWER numbers of carriers, and consolidation has done that. So, NOW is the time to jump back in, or stay where you are and see what happens. 8sugarsuger may really love it out there, but that's just it, you are still "out there." The Sandpit is not a place I want to be at more than a few days at most, and plenty agree. All you have to do is read PPRUNE to figure that out. That society is not fair to anyone except locals. You are guests in THEIR region, and it doesn't take much for them to kick you out if they don't like you. The States are much more comforting, and I don't take that for granted. And to top it off, ATL traffic isn't nearly as bad as DXB traffic, and for that I am thankful.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
I started out just passing on information from the inside, and I really don't agree with what Emirates is doing. They have an incredible unfair advantage against the legacies.

I just like rubbing it into Delta Guy who takes is personally. :p

Its funny to watch him get all huffy puffy.
 
Once again GL has turned it into a DAL is better than you thread which is why I'm checking out now.

But..

Both are good jobs with different things to offer. You live there which is good we live here. You pay more taxes and sit in the RHS, we pay less and sit in the LHS.

We will still buy each other beers in "Jetlag Bar" in NRT and shoot the Shiite. At the end of the day we are out of the regionals which is what this journey started out as.

No one can make the "game set and match" call until its all done...

...at which point we will see each other in a bar in the sun and tell tall tales...

Safe flying boys,

fv
 

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