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Apples and oranges my friend. Walmart employees have what sort of skill that can't be replaced tomorrow by someone who has NO training?
Not a big ALPA fan either, but if they are the best game in town, then that's what I'd want.I am not a huge ALPA cheerleader but I recognize there needs to be some sort of legal buffer between the company and the FAA. ALPA provides that.
Why should ALPA invest any money in that? If SkyWest pilots truly desire some sort contractual protection, they don't ALPA sticking their noses in there to get the job done. Yes I am aware of all the other costs involved. Most of the grassroots stuff can be done without National putting their fingers into the mix.
Hey, tell me what thoughts go through your head when you taxi past that monument to ALPA success at KCVG depicted on the 10-9 as "Terminal C?" Remember how busy that used to be? Remember all those RJ's parked there and the constant movement of planes, passengers, bags, equipment, busses to and from the main terminal? Today, Terminal C is closed. No planes, no passengers, no bags, no equipment. The busses are still there. Just parked out front of the terminal. The bus drivers and all the employees who worked in the terminal aren't there, though. Their jobs are gone, too.
So what lessons do you take away from Comair ALPA's 89 day strike and the aftermath over the last nine years or so? Pretty powerful and protective stuff, those ALPA regional unions, wouldn't you agree? They protect jobs, benefits, everything. And the vocal minority over at SkyWest who are whining, bitching and moaning about losses they've had while their pilot group has pretty much trippled in size over the same period of time want to start another union drive. Yep, that'll solve everthing. Let's get ALPA onboard over there. Great idea. Just taxi past Terminal C at KCVG and see the glory.
Nevermind. I'm probably just being narrow minded or exposing my ignorance.
I love that term.Proof union busting managers.
I love that term.
Unions dont need managers to bust them. They bust themselves with their self serving greed.
Proof union busting managers use this board as propaganda. Read Confessions of Union buster by Marty Levitt. You would not believe the lengths and costs companies will go to prevent, and bust employees from becoming organized.
The original post has a valid point, but you all seem to be missing it. The issue isn't that Concourse C is closed, the issue is that the Comair pilots are being decimated. Concourse C is just the symbol, or "monument."
Here is the last pilot group to go on strike for the profession, and ALPA has done absolutely nothing for them. Sure, Concourse C would have closed regardless, but the highest paid regional pilots would not have been dragged through the 1113 process, and now endless furloughs had ALPA actually acted like a union.
How can we expect other pilots to raise the bar when the only pilots who have were thrown under the bus? We have nobody to blame for the whipsaw but ourselves.
Concourse C is a monument to the Comair pilots. They're both being shut down, but for different reasons.
Why not take responsbility and change that......?
Um, Comair isn't the only regional to raise the bar. You seem to have forgotten AWACs 2001 contract. As far as highest paid...are you insinuating that Comair had a top pay scale of $135/hr and industry leading rigs? Yes, Comair had a decent contract but they aren't/weren't the mesiah.
Um, Comair isn't the only regional to raise the bar. You seem to have forgotten AWACs 2001 contract. As far as highest paid...are you insinuating that Comair had a top pay scale of $135/hr and industry leading rigs? Yes, Comair had a decent contract but they aren't/weren't the mesiah.
And therein lies the ultimate irony of union life. If you ever question ALPA, it's immediately considered proof that you're a "union busting manager."
Wrong. Complain about ALPA all you want, but be smart enough to include a workable solution. Bitching is easy, solutions are hard.
The comment wasn't about questioning ALPA, but about union busters working against any kind of pilot union, ALPA or not. How hard did SKYW management work to keep their pilots from unionizing?
You're falling into the same trap as so many other flightinfo philosophers: blaming ALPA for the actions of individual pilot groups.