ALPA endorses Clinton

[PCL_128]

Sounds like what PCL128 is advocating........

Not at all. Where have I advocated state control of wealth or property? I merely want everyone to pay their fair share. A rich guy paying 15% while his secretary pays 25% is not a fair share.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Not at all. Where have I advocated state control of wealth or property? I merely want everyone to pay their fair share. A rich guy paying 15% while his secretary pays 25% is not a fair share.

Your not a communist....your just a socialist......there is a difference.....

State control would be communism.....whereas socialism is more about "fair distribution of wealth"....which is essentially what you are advocating.....

 

[PCL_128]

Your not a communist....your just a socialist......there is a difference.....

State control would be communism.....whereas socialism is more about "fair distribution of wealth"....which is essentially what you are advocating.....

As is common with Americans, you don't really understand what communism or socialism are.

Communism is simply public control of what traditional Marxist philosophy refers to as the "means of production," which is basically business and all that makes society function. In short, communism is a utopian ideal of complete control of government and business by the people. Communism is not state control as you put it. In short, the USSR was not really communist at all. Trotsky referred to it as a degenerated workers' state, which is basically what all so-called Communist states have been.

As for socialism, it's harder to pin down with a strict definition because there are so many socialist ideologies, but "fair distribution of wealth" as you put it wouldn't really be a fair definiton. Fair distribution of property and the means of production would be more accurate. None of the European countries are really socialist, despite the fact that so many far-righters like to refer to them as such.

 

[pilotyip]

Confiscate, confiscate, confiscate.

Yea PLC wants a Canadian type of Health Care, where now you have to sign up for pre-natal care 10 months in advance. I bet he wants to confiscate the wealth of all millionaires, to give to the poor. Including many the retired airline Pilots. Hillary and Nancy could get together and pull off this great idea.

Pelosi Wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401Ks and Mutual Funds! Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

Boy, are we in trouble... This woman is frightening. "We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied : "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'."

 

[PCL_128]

Yea PLC wants a Canadian type of Health Care

<font color="black"> No, I don't. (and it's spelled PCL, not PLC) The Canadian system is a publicly-funded single-payer system. I don't want that, and neither does Obama. Again, you're listening to Neal Boortz too much.

I bet he wants to confiscate the wealth of all millionaires, to give to the poor.

As usual, you are incorrect. I want the millionaires to pay their fair of the tax burden. That's all.

Pelosi Wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401Ks and Mutual Funds! Alas, it is true - all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

Boy, are we in trouble... This woman is frightening. "We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied : "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as 'Americans'."

Poor gullible yip. Just more internet folklore that never actually happened. Read this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/pelosi.asp

 

[pilotyip]

has to be real

<font color="black"> Poor gullible yip. Just more internet folklore that never actually happened.

It has to be real, it was given to me by a Navy pilot friend of mine who decided to become a Doctor

 

[PCL_128]

It has to be real, it was given to me by a Navy pilot friend of mine who decided to become a Doctor

I don't even know what that means.

 

[pilotyip]

BTW As usual, you are incorrect. I want the millionaires to pay their fair of the tax burden. That's all. What is fair, 95%, 90%, 85% what is fair? JFK had a 98% upper tax braket, so much wealth was leaving the courty that the rates were adjusted down. Same thing happened in England under the Labour Gov't.

 

[pilotyip]

Have your union explain it to you,.

I don't even know what that means.

you are slow on the uptake

 

[PCL_128]

BTW As usual, you are incorrect. I want the millionaires to pay their fair of the tax burden. That's all. What is fair, 95%, 90%, 85% what is fair? JFK had a 98% upper tax braket, so much wealth was leaving the courty that the rates were adjusted down. Same thing happened in England under the Labour Gov't.

"Fair" means at least the same percentage as those making less than them. When the rich can manipulate the system in order to pay virtually nothing, we need to jack up their rates to get their fair share out of them.