ALPA Defeats Emirates in Rent-A-Code Scheme

[Green]

Come on habibi! Dubai is the 8th wonder of the world. Well I'm off to the mall now

 

[jonjuan]

Your perspective makes sense considering you haven't lived the US airline life. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but $210,000+ USD per year at 65 hours a month disappeared after 9/11. You won't find it unless you have 25 years of seniority. You might have to exchange your husband for one who already has 20 years in at a Legacy airline. Maybe General Lee? I'm kidding! Bad joke.

But all kidding aside you might be surprised by what the airlines are paying in the US. US Airways is hiring. First year pay is $3,000/month BEFORE taxes. After 4 years it's $5,200/month again before taxes and that assumes he is on the 767.

At the high end of the scale you have Delta. If your husband could get hired you are looking at about 5k/month first year and 9k/month after 4 years. Not bad at all but definitely nowhere near what you are making right now.

Your husband will never fly 100+ hours per month at EK. Your sister does but so do flight attendants in the US. He probably works harder at EK than he would back home but he also makes a lot more than he would back home. Tell him to spend more time on the swap board and he can alter his line from high to med-low time.

I'm certainly no kook aid drinker. I can complain with the best of them. Emirates uses me and in return I use them. There are no happy family airlines in the US (maaaaybe SWA). Use every benefit you can to the maximum and try to minimize the amount of work you put in using every legal means at your disposal. Keep an eye out for better options. Obviously there's much more to life than money. But figuring out the balance is tough.

Assuming he's a captain your husband would have to make about 260k/year before taxes in the US to equal his salary in dubai. If you have kids you might have to bump that up to 280k-300k. Here is a website with all the airline salaries so you can see exactly what he will make. Good luck
www.airlinepilotcentral.com

According to that website, 757 is over $10K month after 2 years. The delta board is talking about 600 hired just next year and won't stop for a long time, fwiw.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

The delta board is talking about 600 hired just next year and won't stop for a long time, fwiw.

In the 33 years I've been in this business, I'm yet to see an upward cycle that lasted a long time.

 

[jonjuan]

In the 33 years I've been in this business, I'm yet to see an upward cycle that lasted a long time.

Agreed, however, when in your past 33 years have there EVER been the number of mandatory retirements occurring (as stated on the bottom of the website page?). Unless 65 changes, the hiring WILL have to continue.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Everyone is talking about the upcoming retirements as if it was a new phenomenon that we have never seen, there have always been attrition due to retirement, the numbers seem unprecedented just because of the bottleneck caused by the increment in retirement age.
Sorry but I just don't believe in the "nothing but blue skies ahead" when related to this business.

 

[flyboyike]

Our concern is that if we stick around another 20+ years plus the 11+ we've already done then potentially half our lives will have been spent in Dubai. Do we really want that?

There are worse places to spend half one's life.

 

[jonjuan]

There are worse places to spend half one's life.

Agreed like Cleveland, Detroit, Oakland, and Houston....

 

[uba757]

Mrs. Buford, I apologize if I sounded harsh, no disrespect meant!!!! Some of the posters here on flightinfo make it seem like us guys and gals that came over to EK are like the Soviets during the Cold War! THE ENEMY! When in reality we are just pilots who came here looking for a better life for ourself and our families. Please, do not be offended, it's not what I meant!

 

[Buford]

Uba757, I get where you're coming from. Our family is in a much better place having come to Dubai. I dread to think how things would have turned out had we stayed in the US waiting for an opportunity that wasn't there after my husband's last carrier went bankrupt.

 

[fareview]

The contracts in Asia are getting juicier, the young-ish Americans are being drawn home, TP and the likes with their experience will continue to pick at the low hanging fruit.

I think we can all agree .. It's positive for the profession.

fv