ALPA chest thumpers

[MELIT]

What has ALPA done for you, EVER? Besides take your money and delay your contract for 5+ years.

 

[BoeingBaller]

Try non-union see how you like it... THUMP THUMP...

 

[merlindrvr88]

Nothing

What has ALPA done for you, EVER? Besides take your money and delay your contract for 5+ years.

ALPA does nothing. It is a thing of the past. Ask United, Usair, Northwest Pilots. Ask my father, my uncle, my grandfather. ALPA does nothing!!! I cannot say that enough.

 

[MELIT]

ALPA does nothing. It is a thing of the past. Ask United, Usair, Northwest Pilots. Ask my father, my uncle, my grandfather. ALPA does nothing!!! I cannot say that enough.

These youg kids have blinders on.

 

[merlindrvr88]

Yes They Do

These youg kids have blinders on.

Just like bowling baller, they think ALPO actuallycares.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Oh, let's see:

1) Helped save medical because of a bad (faulty) EKG/ECG read.

2) Helped keep job when a minor (read total non-event) incident occured (would have been fired anywhere else).

3) Helped keep job vs. issue with vindictive check airman.(check airman fired from training dept. less than month later, after investigation requested by union).

Good enough for ya?

Oh, I'm not some greenhorn newbie at this. And have been at both union and non-union carriers. I'll take represented any day. Sounds like you were at poorly represented carriers, but that's not the fault of ALPA national, that's the individual pilot group's fault.

Oh well, to each his own.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[merlindrvr88]

What?

Oh, let's see:

1) Helped save medical because of a bad (faulty) EKG/ECG read.

2) Helped keep job when a minor (read total non-event) incident occured (would have been fired anywhere else).

3) Helped keep job vs. issue with vindictive check airman.(check airman fired from training dept. less than month later, after investigation requested by union).

Good enough for ya?

Oh, I'm not some greenhorn newbie at this. And have been at both union and non-union carriers. I'll take represented any day. Sounds like you were at poorly represented carriers, but that's not the fault of ALPA national, that's the individual pilot group's fault.

Oh well, to each his own.

Peace.

Rekks

I had a bad EKG, my doctor took care of it. Just like he should. Vindictive check airman? Wow? sounds like you suck as a pilot, and they saved a bad pilot's job. Good thing they save bad pilots jobs. That will only lead to lawsuits later.h

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Actually, your doctor is not ALLOWED to take care of it, it must be done by the FAA Aeromedical in OK City. And ALPA straightened it out in 24 hrs.

Regarding your statement that I 'suck as a pilot', I might suggest you refrain from slanderous statements like that, since you probably don't know me. By looking at your profile, I've been at this a little longer than you. Do you think I would have survived this long in this career if I 'sucked as a pilot'. Didn't think so.

You have your opinion of ALPA, and I have mine. I just happen to think yours is missinformed, as you probably think the same of mine.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[Regul8r]

GooseEgg

They talk alot and they know how to posture. And they offer magazine subscriptions for $1,200/yr.

 

[acaTerry]

Yeah ALPO takes care of pilots...like the 2 drunks at AWA. Those 2 should have been left out dry. They forfieted they're protection by doing something that stupid. I'm still flabbergasted by that.
Oh and they took my union dues to campaign for a candidate I totally opposed. And they allowed the whole job to go to he!! in a handbasket while Duane Woerth(less) was sparing no effort writing stern letters about lasers. What better way to spend 3%!
No, they're not what they used to be, but I guess that's still better than working non-shop. A weak union is better than no union.

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

I worked at Colgan and now work at a ALPA carrier. Totally a night and day difference. I wouldn't go back to a non union carrier at this point. Simply things like a commuter clause make this job much less sressful. At Colgan if you were to tell them you missed a commute descent chance you would get fired the 2nd or 3rd time it happened, and probably get written up the 1st time it happened. I had my own commuter clasuse at Colgan, it was calling in sick. THe problem was they always wanted a doc's note so that would force me to go to the doc whether I was sick or not. Here I only have to give myself 2 shots to make my show time and if I dont make it I call scheduling and let them know what is going on, very simple. At Colgan I would give myself 5 shots and a few times I still didnt make it. I can spend more time at home b/c of only having to give myself 2 flights to make it vs. 5. It usually provides me with an extra afternoon at home versus having to commute out early to be "safe". Sometimes when loads were tight I would even commute out a day early at Colgan.

I could go on and on about about the benefits of a union. How about the weekly Brink memo that always ended "up to and including termination", we dont get those here mostly due to the union. The policy and procedures handbook at Colgan was basically a book that should be titled "All the Ways we can Fire You". Don't get me wrong I liked working at Colgan especially all the people I worked with, loved my base, liked the Saab. But having union protection and simple things like commtuer clauses make it a much better job thats less stressful IMO.

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Yeah ALPO takes care of pilots...like the 2 drunks at AWA. Those 2 should have been left out dry. They forfieted they're protection by doing something that stupid. I'm still flabbergasted by that.
Oh and they took my union dues to campaign for a candidate I totally opposed. And they allowed the whole job to go to he!! in a handbasket while Duane Woerth(less) was sparing no effort writing stern letters about lasers. What better way to spend 3%!
No, they're not what they used to be, but I guess that's still better than working non-shop. A weak union is better than no union.

ACATerry,

Contrary to what some might believe, I agree with everything you stated above. The AWA guys should be in jail (I think they are, but not sure). And Woerthless, don't get me started. Your last statement is also right on.

I also agree that union dues should not be used to endorse candidates for ANY party. Just as monies from corporations, clubs and other non-PACS shouldn't be, either.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[Regul8r]

Sounds like you were at poorly represented carriers, but that's not the fault of ALPA national, that's the individual pilot group's fault.

I CONSTANTLY hear this garbage - the inefficiencies which ALPA tries to sweep under th rug and dismiss. And when confronted by it, ALPA National tosses the repective pilot group in question under the bus. National is not to be held accountable. New pilots won't see this. They don't want to. All they know is they got hired on with some $hitbag regional outfit and now ALPA has a captive audience of desperate pilots who HOPE ALPA will show them to the promised land. Prater can suck it, he hasn't delivered yet.

 

[Regul8r]

Live to Fight Another Day

Who came up with this crap? ALPA must mean business with this slogan! ALPA is a weak Union alright, but it's not better than no Union. You see, by being a weak Union, ALPA has voluntarily assumed the position of the "catcher"
In other words, ALPA is Management's B!tch

 

[tico]

What has ALPA done for you, EVER? Besides take your money and delay your contract for 5+ years.

If you have to ask....Than you are too new to the business to understand

 

[OPECJet]

I personally know of ALPA reps who have answered 3 AM phone calls from pilots whose wife had left them. Reps who have defended discipline cases where good pilots / good people made a simple, honest mistake and had their jobs on the line. ALPA reps who helped clear the good names of pilots who had balled up an airplane through no fault of their own. ALPA reps who have sat with the families of deceased airman and made sure their needs were met. ALPA lawyers who defended cases of false positive drug screens. I could go on.

ALPA is far from perfect, but you'll be damn thankful for them when you need their assistance. ALPA is what the members make it. Don't like it? Change it.

 

[HA25]

What has ALPA done for you, EVER? Besides take your money and delay your contract for 5+ years.

-gotten me days off that I wouldn't have had without ALPA
-a 12 hour call out instead of "be there in 1 hour or it's your job"
-upgrade with seniority not when the DO decided I was enough of a "company man"
-Insurance that others wouldn't underwrite
-a Voice in congress when the ATA and other lobby groups try to re-write FARs to make work rules "safer" and "more productive"

shall I continue?

 

[HA25]

I had a bad EKG, my doctor took care of it. Just like he should. Vindictive check airman? Wow? sounds like you suck as a pilot, and they saved a bad pilot's job. Good thing they save bad pilots jobs. That will only lead to lawsuits later.h

and you sound like your full of %$@#

 

[Texx]

ALPA does nothing. It is a thing of the past. Ask United, Usair, Northwest Pilots. Ask my father, my uncle, my grandfather. ALPA does nothing!!! I cannot say that enough.

And did they fly for Eastern during the late 80's?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

MELIT,

Isn't there a burned out light bulb in some lav for you to fix?