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Daytonaflyer

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A new hire MD-80 first officer was recently awarded a captain position at Allegiant's HOM base (perpetual TDY base) while still in initial new hire training. This has to be an industry record. Meanwhile, senior first officers are deferring upgrade by the dozen to avoid the constant TDY that tends to happen when you are junior at Allegiant. How can the FAA allow this to happen? Talk about dangerous...
 
A new hire MD-80 first officer was recently awarded a captain position at Allegiant's HOM base (perpetual TDY base) while still in initial new hire training. This has to be an industry record. Meanwhile, senior first officers are deferring upgrade by the dozen to avoid the constant TDY that tends to happen when you are junior at Allegiant. How can the FAA allow this to happen? Talk about dangerous...

Is he qualified to be a PIC on the aircraft to which he will be assigned? If yes, why would the FAA have an interest?

Is the concept of Street Captain foreign to you?
 
Is he qualified to be a PIC on the aircraft to which he will be assigned? If yes, why would the FAA have an interest?

Is the concept of Street Captain foreign to you?

I'm assuming you haven't flown the MD-80. It's a little more antiquated than your average regional jet and can bite you if you don't have much experience flying it. Allegiant allows green on green flying, brand new captains fly with brand new FO's. To go straight into a captain position on this airplane with no prior experience on the DC-9 type could be unsafe.
 
I'm assuming you haven't flown the MD-80. It's a little more antiquated than your average regional jet and can bite you if you don't have much experience flying it. Allegiant allows green on green flying, brand new captains fly with brand new FO's. To go straight into a captain position on this airplane with no prior experience on the DC-9 type could be unsafe.

Please stop the drama.
 
I would imagine that the carriers insurance requires a pic to have minimum times and he meets them. If he passed his type ride, especially in the current environment over there he's good to go. This is no different than a senior 777 or 747 FO that decides to go fly the left seat in the 80 for AA or DAL. Jetblue gets 320 guys in the left seat of the 190 who've never touched an embaer. This is the industry.

It's a plane. Be safe have fun.
 
I'm assuming you haven't flown the MD-80. It's a little more antiquated than your average regional jet and can bite you if you don't have much experience flying it. Allegiant allows green on green flying, brand new captains fly with brand new FO's. To go straight into a captain position on this airplane with no prior experience on the DC-9 type could be unsafe.

Guilty as charged. I have not flown the MD-80. Should we consider the possibility that this pilot has flown the MD-80 in the course of previous employment?

Green on green goes away if the "green" captain already has a couple of thousand hours in type.
 
A new hire MD-80 first officer was recently awarded a captain position at Allegiant's HOM base (perpetual TDY base) while still in initial new hire training.

How do you know this happened ?
 
Pilots are such drama queens. Upgrading into an airplane that someone hasn't flown before has been happening before all of us were born and it will happen long after we are all dust. This is really about a person who doesn't like XYZ company and the company today happens to be Allegiant. If person passes ground school, sim evaluations and IOE what is your gripe exactly? And save the he needs some experience in the airplane argument because how do companies get initial cadre check airmen captains qualified into planes they've never flown before?
 

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