Allegiant Hiring Info

[Freight Dog]

The devaluation of our profession began with ALPA and the absolutely insane seniority system and pay in accordance of seniority. Why are there 10,000 hour pilots who are newhires at ANY US airline making McDonald's wages? It is because our experience/pay is not portable, and ALPA, as the largest pilot representative in this country, allowed it to happen... no, actually ALPA INSISTS it to happen.

That started a trend that is great for companies, bad for pilots and our predecessors accepted it. It's on us to fix it, but I highly doubt that this generation has what it takes to actually do something about it.

That's why if you have any experience, but you don't want to start all over again making an absolute bottom dollar, you pack your bags and go overseas where they have no such insanity as newbie pay all over again, or if you are lucky, you go corporate where you get paid based on what you negotiate, usually based on pay standards across the industry for that type and your experience level.

 

[The Victors]

Great. Fix it. Form an in house union at alleeeeegiant and demand better wages and work rules and show alpa how to do it. Then maybe you'll earn some respect.

 

[Freight Dog]

Why unionize?

Having a union on the property is not a win for the employees. It's the failure of management. Find me where Allegiant management has failed their employees so grossly as to warrant unionizing.

As far as the pay is concerned, Allegiant's first year pay is in line with everyone else. Their upgrade time is currently projected at 2 years for newhires. They're profitable, and they have scheduled raises. Could they improve on pay? Why absolutely... however, they've been getting raises, and they're scheduled additional raises.

Add into account their QOL, I'd say it's a pretty decent deal considering every place else.

 

[crxpilot]

bottom dwelling company might be a bit harsh, but what he is saying is true. This is why the profession of being a pilot is becoming more of a joke and management knows it. "Professional pilots" willing to take any sh!tty wage in order to fly a big jet.

I thought I smelled scum around here...........and there you were Victors!

 

[The Victors]

scum? Ok. I'll take that label if that's the name you give to people attempting to raise the level of professional pay and benefits.

 

[The Victors]

Why unionize?

Having a union on the property is not a win for the employees. It's the failure of management. Find me where Allegiant management has failed their employees so grossly as to warrant unionizing.

As far as the pay is concerned, Allegiant's first year pay is in line with everyone else. Their upgrade time is currently projected at 2 years for newhires. They're profitable, and they have scheduled raises. Could they improve on pay? Why absolutely... however, they've been getting raises, and they're scheduled additional raises.

Add into account their QOL, I'd say it's a pretty decent deal considering every place else.

Ya yes. My favorite line. "It's ok that pay and benefits suck now because I get to fly a big jet today and I get to be a big jet captain in 2 years." Let's ask the airtran, jetblue, frontier, skybus, spirit, .........pilots what they think about that line?

 

[Ameriagle]

scum? Ok. I'll take that label if that's the name you give to people attempting to raise the level of professional pay and benefits.

What are you doing for the profession, besides acting like a dou**e on FI? What vision and sacrifice. You are a testement to your profession.....let me be the first to thank you!

 

[chperplt]

Ya yes. My favorite line. "It's ok that pay and benefits suck now because I get to fly a big jet today and I get to be a big jet captain in 2 years." Let's ask the airtran, jetblue, frontier, skybus, spirit, .........pilots what they think about that line?

So tell us oh wise one.... Teach us the way.




On second thought... Who gives a rats ass what you think.

 

[say again]

Thanks guys, resume was sent out.

 

[BRA]

I like the posts victors makes. They are overly simplistic, and I would like to see how he would make things happen if he worked here (haha) But, it helps to keep our eye on the ball.

I say keep posting.

 

[Freight Dog]

Ya yes. My favorite line. "It's ok that pay and benefits suck now because I get to fly a big jet today and I get to be a big jet captain in 2 years." Let's ask the airtran, jetblue, frontier, skybus, spirit, .........pilots what they think about that line?

Do preach, brother! I'm all ears. Please tell me what I should do. What have I done wrong so far in my career? Please teach me! This is why I'm on FI! I'm here to learn from the wise in ways...

 

[SaabStory]

So tell us oh wise one.... Teach us the way.




On second thought... Who gives a rats ass what you think.

Don't be so tough on victors...he's not thinking clearly. Football season was a mess & now he's gotta suffer through hoops..."pride comes before the fall"...

 

[RP170]

Don't be so tough on victors...he's not thinking clearly. Football season was a mess & now he's gotta suffer through hoops..."pride comes before the fall"...

The hoops will be alright this year. Rodriguez will have the football team rolling in 2 years as well. Go Blue!

 

[The Victors]

You are a testement to your profession.....let me be the first to thank you!

Thanks!!

 

[The Victors]

I already told you guys what to do. Sit down, take your backpack off, and try reading my previous posts.

 

[Desert1]

I've read your posts Vic...and those of the other parrots with the same carbon-copy repetition of inaccurate and ridiculously flawed reasoning. Whatever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of your rant. I quit trying to reason with people like you a long time ago, it's a complete waste of time.

From your posts I don't see you as one who conducts research before pontificating from the pulpit, but if you care to read a valid response, take the time to research some of the previous responses posted on this (very tired) topic. In the end, you might actually be surprised at how competitive this new company's pilot wages are. Again, for those of you who actually seek the facts, by 11/09, AAY's 10-yr Captain pay will exceed those of USAir and Northwest. This pay scale represents a 40% increase in pay over a 5-yr period. As opposed to ALPA, these gains were achieved through an in-house, non-union pilot group and came at no charge to the pilots. Not bad huh?

As opposed to hanging around on this site, have you spent any time reading the news? Get a clue. It's a brave new world. Highly globalized and extremely competitive environment where conditions change very fast and businesses--of every kind--are forced to adapt or face the (dire) consequences. This company is very adaptable, light on its feet, dynamic and flexible to changing circumstances.

But don't take my word for it, go ahead and apply to the legacies (dinosaurs), no one is stopping you. Whatever you do, please don't apply here.

Yep,...we're bottom-dwellers, blah, blah, low-lifes, blah, scum, blah, blah, blah...yep, heard it already. And yes, it's so done, so old, and ...yawn, frankly so boring.

Allegiant sucks. After all, who could stand the horrific QOL...
1. Never getting to sit around airports (out and backs),...
2. No hotel rooms/van rides (in base every night).
3. 2-year upgrades,
4. Stable/profitable company with a progressive insightful leadership team.
5. Very loyal and content pilot group, most of whom are NOT reading your drivel. Why? They are too busy enjoying the record amount of time off with their families/hobbies. Another reason they're not on this website? Unlike you, they're not looking for job opportunities! They are A) happy...and B) in a very stable/profitable airline (and before you ask, I only visit this site when I'm really bored).

Seriously Vic, dig deep, do some research, grab a handful of insight and imagination, THEN post. Hopefully it will actually contain a modicum of original thought.

Best part is the number of our 'critics' that are later found in the Allegiant hiring line. Hypocrasy in its purest form...hillarious, if not so pathetic.

D1

 

[huncowboy]

So how about competitive mins for the last class. Competitive mins from a year ago probably do not apply anymore... I'd guess. Any info on that?

Is FLL still junior?

And

Do they require the resignation of seniority if you have a number at another carrier?

Thanks!

 

[Ameriagle]

Thanks!!

Your welcome....a**wipe!

 

[The Victors]

I've read your posts Vic...and those of the other parrots with the same carbon-copy repetition of inaccurate and ridiculously flawed reasoning. Whatever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of your rant. I quit trying to reason with people like you a long time ago, it's a complete waste of time.

From your posts I don't see you as one who conducts research before pontificating from the pulpit, but if you care to read a valid response, take the time to research some of the previous responses posted on this (very tired) topic. In the end, you might actually be surprised at how competitive this new company's pilot wages are. Again, for those of you who actually seek the facts, by 11/09, AAY's 10-yr Captain pay will exceed those of USAir and Northwest. This pay scale represents a 40% increase in pay over a 5-yr period. As opposed to ALPA, these gains were achieved through an in-house, non-union pilot group and came at no charge to the pilots. Not bad huh?

As opposed to hanging around on this site, have you spent any time reading the news? Get a clue. It's a brave new world. Highly globalized and extremely competitive environment where conditions change very fast and businesses--of every kind--are forced to adapt or face the (dire) consequences. This company is very adaptable, light on its feet, dynamic and flexible to changing circumstances.

But don't take my word for it, go ahead and apply to the legacies (dinosaurs), no one is stopping you. Whatever you do, please don't apply here.

Yep,...we're bottom-dwellers, blah, blah, low-lifes, blah, scum, blah, blah, blah...yep, heard it already. And yes, it's so done, so old, and ...yawn, frankly so boring.

Allegiant sucks. After all, who could stand the horrific QOL...
1. Never getting to sit around airports (out and backs),...
2. No hotel rooms/van rides (in base every night).
3. 2-year upgrades,
4. Stable/profitable company with a progressive insightful leadership team.
5. Very loyal and content pilot group, most of whom are NOT reading your drivel. Why? They are too busy enjoying the record amount of time off with their families/hobbies. Another reason they're not on this website? Unlike you, they're not looking for job opportunities! They are A) happy...and B) in a very stable/profitable airline (and before you ask, I only visit this site when I'm really bored).

Seriously Vic, dig deep, do some research, grab a handful of insight and imagination, THEN post. Hopefully it will actually contain a modicum of original thought.

Best part is the number of our 'critics' that are later found in the Allegiant hiring line. Hypocrasy in its purest form...hillarious, if not so pathetic.

D1

I like your post. It's actually well thought out for once. For the record, I did say "bottom-dwellers" was too harsh. So how many 10 year captains do you have now? Are you comparing those rates to the "new" northwest/delta rates? Do you realize those rates are bottom of the barrel rates that were forced down the throats of those pilots in bankruptcy? Does living in a "brave new world" mean that you have to except low wages at the cost to your profession so that you can be home every night? Talk about reading the news, ever ask an airtran pilot about their awesome 2 year upgrades? You don't have to ever worry about me in the allegiant hiring line. I've got a pretty good job.

 

[The Victors]

Your welcome....a**wipe!

Always love hearing from the backpack crowd. Time to run back home to mommy junior.