All ATP CRJ Certification course.

[rvt102096]

My girlfriend is interested in doing this program, does anyone have any idea if this is a good program or not. Thanks

 

[DX Rick]

My girlfriend is interested in doing this program, does anyone have any idea if this is a good program or not. Thanks

I did my multi through ATP. I talked to my instructor, who had to go through all of ATP's training. He did the CRJ, and Citation training. When I flew with him, he had about 900 hours TT something like 750 Multi. I asked him how those courses were, and if they helped. His short, blunt reply "No."

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I don't see how that would help anyone. And if anyone thinks a recruiter would be like- Whoa- You have the RJ certification from ATP, well I think it's about as useful as a certification of competency from like- Home Depot in tile installation. Yeah, you can grout tile, but it'll still look like sh1t.

 

[Vik]

You'd be better of buying a FMS simulator software and learning it; buying the CBT software for the RJ of your choice and learning it.

I've never done All ATPs program for the RJ but I don't think its required.

Most people don't wash out of training because they couldn't work the FMS. Its usually other factors that are involved.

You'd be better of taking that $800 and giving it to a pilot for the regional that just hired you to get a hold of their training materials early, so between your interview and class date, you can study for what really matters, not some RJ that you might not fly.

 

[Sphrynxlla]

I think it would help with her knowledge of the rj and her ability to fly a glass cockpit, which would help out a lot if she was interviewing at a place where they put you in a level d sim (ASA)..other than that, Im sure it looks good but I dont think most recruiters would give it a second look. I used to teach for ATP and I would not have ever done it unless I had an interview with ASA.... even then I probably wouldnt. too much money

 

[Weasil]

You'd be better of buying a FMS simulator software and learning it; buying the CBT software for the RJ of your choice and learning it.

I've never done All ATPs program for the RJ but I don't think its required.

Most people don't wash out of training because they couldn't work the FMS. Its usually other factors that are involved.

You'd be better of taking that $800 and giving it to a pilot for the regional that just hired you to get a hold of their training materials early, so between your interview and class date, you can study for what really matters, not some RJ that you might not fly.

How is it that you know so much about how people wash out from 121 training? According to your profile you've never worked for a 121 carrier.

 

[Rook]

EEEEasy Weasil 'ol buddy. It's a public forum and he's just giving his most educated guess is all.

Rook

 

[shroomwell]

Sounds like a scam to me. Not even worth the paper your "certificate" or whatever they call it is written on. There are alot of people out there who are out to make a profit on the eagerness and niavity of those trying to break into this "profitable career?". Be careful.

 

[rvt102096]

Thanks for the input fellow pilots, I was just wondering about it helping her with a glass cockpit transtion. I have heard that the washout at regionals is fairly high compared to the majors...just wondering.

 

[Tooslow]

just making a lot of money on your dreams............

 

[Dodge]

I would say most of the problems with training are not from being in a glass cockpit. Not knowing call outs, profiles, limitations, and memory items well is the best way to not make it through sim training. Being able to fly instruments well also will go a long way towards lowering that washout rate.

As far as the washout rate in the majors, most all those pilots were regional or military pilots who flew various gages. But they all had way more experience than most of those going through new training in the regionals.

I would say to save your money.

 

[Paul R. Smith]

I would say the best thing to prepare for sim training is flying a sim. Even if its a Frasca 242 or somin. Tunr up the performance, turn up the turbulence. Turn off the artificial control feel and just zip around and do some approaches. Don't bother learning ahead of time how to do a V1 cut. Every company is going to have different procedures and callouts. Just get really frosty at Basic attitude so you can learn and remember what those callouts and memory items were when the time comes. The basic idea is to keep the blue side up. That part won't change going from piston props to turbojets. Best of luck I would not bother with an RJ class unless you got the money and are really jonesing for it.

 

[da90drivr]

I would have to agree with Dodge, learning the profiles and the calls should be at the top of your friends list.
There is no magic to flying glass, you will learn what the symbology(sp) means and the switches do in ground school.
If your friend can get ahold of the A/C systems manual before class tell her to read it. Not to know how every system works in detail but to get an idea of what the instructor will be teaching in systems class. (This is assuming they actually teach and not just read from the book).
If she wants to memorize limitations or profiles try to get the company specific info. You don't want to memorize the wrong info.

As to getting sim time before training, probably not needed. The first part of sim 1 will be airwork and stalls, you will get a feel for it then. Just think of it as a big computer game.

 

[Superkell]

Better than that

Not sure about total time or ratings but MESA has a similar program at San Juan College where you learn all 10 lessons in a CRJ sim plus the systems course. You can sleep through the ground school if you go to the CRJ and most do go stright there as an FO. Most who fail fail because they are not prepared for complicated profiles. You have to continue to study throughout your sim time with your sim partner. Most who fail fail with their partner at the same time.

If you have 1500 TT you can attend MAPDs plus program and have a garonteed interview when you complete the program. Cost like 5Gs and will help you through the ground course especically if this is your first jet.

If you dont have the total time consider theif 3 month pace program. 250 TT and SE comercial is all that is requiered. They will place you in a CRJ at 270 TT if you go through this program.

No ratings at all? Consider the Abnitio program. 210 TT gets you an interview and usually the CRJ. 100 Percent hire rate from the last class. All so far have completed their initial training reguardless of aircraft. (CRJ and ERJ).

PM me your phone # and Ill give you the scoop.

18002326327 is the recruiting line. They wont mislead you. Steer well clear of ATP unless you just want the piece of paper that says you can fly a plane.

I am a graduate. FO on CRJ. The program is superior.

 

[Ralgha]

Not sure about total time or ratings but MESA has a similar program at San Juan College where you learn all 10 lessons in a CRJ sim plus the systems course. You can sleep through the ground school if you go to the CRJ and most do go stright there as an FO. Most who fail fail because they are not prepared for complicated profiles. You have to continue to study throughout your sim time with your sim partner. Most who fail fail with their partner at the same time.

If you have 1500 TT you can attend MAPDs plus program and have a garonteed interview when you complete the program. Cost like 5Gs and will help you through the ground course especically if this is your first jet.

If you dont have the total time consider theif 3 month pace program. 250 TT and SE comercial is all that is requiered. They will place you in a CRJ at 270 TT if you go through this program.

No ratings at all? Consider the Abnitio program. 210 TT gets you an interview and usually the CRJ. 100 Percent hire rate from the last class. All so far have completed their initial training reguardless of aircraft. (CRJ and ERJ).

PM me your phone # and Ill give you the scoop.

18002326327 is the recruiting line. They wont mislead you. Steer well clear of ATP unless you just want the piece of paper that says you can fly a plane.

I am a graduate. FO on CRJ. The program is superior.

How do you like working there?