Alaska returns to Bellingham

[igneousy2]

Warning. Do not have any razor blades or sleeping pills nearby when visiting this airlinepilotpay.com site from 2004.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040326123328/http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/

 

[Mookie]

Warning. Do not have any razor blades or sleeping pills nearby when visiting this airlinepilotpay.com site from 2004.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040326123328/http://www.airlinepilotpay.com/

damn...checkout the Delta payscale....damn....

mookie

 

[armani]

Now thats some COIN!

 

[OHGOON]

But, I guess its OK because you "had to feed your family."

This is the second time you posted that incomprehensibly glib cr@p!!

Of course that is why folks take those jobs. We are highly trained to do one thing. Keep metal from bending so it can be used again to haul the next load of melons! Those skills don't easily transfer into another "well paying" career, or I would have left long ago.

You sir, have either never been furloughed or are just too thick to remember what it was like. (Probably Uncle Sam bought and paid for your training and then, when your time was up and they let you out of the WWI Army Air Core, you slipped straight into your current cushy job.) I, for one, am sick of pilots bashing each other for the sad state of affairs in our industry. We don't make the decisions. Blame management who made them and our current flaccid culture for not only accepting it all, but cheering it right along.

I am pro union all the way, but i recognize that events may compel anyone into working for less than the ideal in order to, yes here it comes, feed the family, not loose the house, etc,

Furthermore you compare someone working for a nonunion carrier to crossing the picket line!?? You must be a proponent of the national seniority list then? Last I checked, when I was furloughed, I was not aware that my taking another aviation job affected your bleeping # with ALPA in any way. This comparison is just twisted b*llsh!t, and you sir are an insensitive pompous a$$!

You must be loads of fun on the road. I bet there are many a txt message on your crew's phones conspiring of a way to loose you for the evening.

 

[Dix-Bag]

I hand delivered 2 Alaska Furloughee resumes to the Chief Pilot's office on March 2nd. I guess they don't agree with you..

When Alaska was 8 years old, they were flying Ford Trimotors and Lockheed Orion float planes.

Now, if you want to compare apples to apples, eight years AGO we were making $196 an hour. That was until non-Union lowballers like you, B6 and Virgin proved to management they could get airline pilots for $120 (B6), $95 (Virgin) and $110 (YOU) an hour.

Thanks ever so much for lowering the bar.

 

[citabriapilot]

I hand delivered 2 Alaska Furloughee resumes to the Chief Pilot's office on March 2nd. I guess they don't agree with you..

I took 2 in from furloughed Alaska pilots as well. Hmmm....

 

[check6]

I'm not sure why Alaska is trying to fill a 737. Why not take an RJ off the PDX-SEA route? Or, for that matter, off any other shorter segment route the RJ has been known to fly in the last year.

I know we are trying to dump the RJ, but that hasn't been successful and fuel prices are considerably lower.

If all this has been mentioned, my apologies.

 

[QCappy]

I'm not sure why Alaska is trying to fill a 737. Why not take an RJ off the PDX-SEA route? Or, for that matter, off any other shorter segment route the RJ has been known to fly in the last year.

Because at those ticket prices you could never make money with an RJ with a point-to-point route like that. With a 737 you can charge the cheap fare and hope it fills up, thereby having a chance to at least break even.

 

[SRMairlines]

Allegiant Pilots...

All I ask is that you raise the bar when you get the chance. It will make you and your bank account feel good. In order to control your own fate and achieve this a union may be required. Good luck.

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

Allegiant Pilots...

All I ask is that you raise the bar when you get the chance. It will make you and your bank account feel good. In order to control your own fate and achieve this a union may be required. Good luck.

Thanks. Believe me, nobody wants parity with the rest of the industry more than we do. Right now, we are in the middle of a 3-year "agreement" which expires Nov 2010. In good faith, we have decided not to pound on the door for more money until next year. I personally believe that next year will be pivotal as far as our existance as either a union or non-union pilot group. Barring any unforseen economic disaster and as long as the company continues to print money, that will be the time to go for the big gains, and everyone here knows it. If management is willing to play ball with us, you may not see a union here for some time. If they aren't, we'll definitely do something about it.

 

[Dix-Bag]

There will be a union at AAY within 1 years time. I hope we are smart and choose the one with the most national clout.

 

[chperplt]

There will be a union at AAY within 1 years time. I hope we are smart and choose the one with the most national clout.

I think that is completely up to management.

We made a he!!l of a lot of money during the 1st quarter and they say the rest of the year looks great. With that being said, they can come to us and thank us for our hard work with better pay and work rules now, or risk having a union before this current agreemen expires.

 

[Fubijaakr]

With that being said, they can come to us and thank us for our hard work with better pay and work rules now, or risk having a union before this current agreemen expires.

Good luck with that theory. However, don't be surprised if they don't. I'll bet they reward themselves for "their" success.

Wanna bet a beer?

 

[BEECH-SLAPPED]

I think that is completely up to management.

We made a he!!l of a lot of money during the 1st quarter and they say the rest of the year looks great. With that being said, they can come to us and thank us for our hard work with better pay and work rules now, or risk having a union before this current agreemen expires.

That would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath for an "early deal". However, the negotiations next year need to produce sizable gains (better than 25% bump) in order to keep the union cards out of the mailboxes, IMHO.

 

[chperplt]

Good luck with that theory. However, don't be surprised if they don't. I'll bet they reward themselves for "their" success.

Wanna bet a beer?

I don't think for a second that they will.... I just said that they could come to us.

We have a great management team that thinks outside the airline box. By doing so, they've made this a very successful company. The one area they can't seem to think outside of that box is in dealing with the pilot group. :bomb: