Alaska profit

[General Lee]

Don't fall for his narccicism, guys...

Mookie

Mookie, if you don't have something to add (as per normal), then throw me on ignore. I bring up points that your comrades obviously want to talk about, something you haven't done, even during your Skw days. Look, you can't debate, and instead throw out the "narccicist" stuff, which even you know is ridiculous. People who can't debate say stuff like that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Freebrd]

Jenny sure has a lot of friends on FI....not! Putz!

 

[SWA Bubba]

Whoa, slow down hoss. I'm glad AK owns Horizon, but it sux that most of the flights between the State of AK's two largest cities will be flown by props. Profits, good. Less mainline flying, bad. That is my point.

And it's great your stock is so high, that makes potential "friends" think twice about becoming more friendly. I don't want that personally, and if the guys at AA want to look at it, go for it. Internal growth is always better, and it looks like that is happening anyway now. Good.

Also, it's best when a pilot group attempts to bring up wages and tighten scope at the same time. In good financial times, that should be easier.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Hold on a sec.... Am I reading this right? Is the General really ragging on some other airline for outsourcing some of its flying to a regional? Seriously?

That's funny stuff right there... I don't care who you are.

Bubba

 

[redflyer65]

Hold on a sec.... Am I reading this right? Is the General really ragging on some other airline for outsourcing some of its flying to a regional? Seriously?

That's funny stuff right there... I don't care who you are.

Bubba

Yes, you are reading that right. The irony is so thick you can cut if with a knife. Over 600 RJs on property and he's the one acting like this. Nice.

Such is life for the Village Idiot.

 

[Mookie]

Mookie, if you don't have something to add (as per normal), then throw me on ignore. I bring up points that your comrades obviously want to talk about, something you haven't done, even during your Skw days. Look, you can't debate, and instead throw out the "narccicist" stuff, which even you know is ridiculous. People who can't debate say stuff like that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Debating with a narcissist is like hitting your hand with a hammer....it only feels good when you stop. If you had a cogent and consistent argument about anything other than disagreeing for the sake of riling up someone, then many would engage you because its obvious you are quite bright with many good well researched ideas. Instead however, you tend to inflame and condescend which makes you look like a fool and devalues your opinion. Because of this, it's not worth my time or others to engage you.

Mookie

 

[Ocity]

Debating with a narcissist is like hitting your hand with a hammer....it only feels good when you stop. If you had a cogent and consistent argument about anything other than disagreeing for the sake of riling up someone, then many would engage you because its obvious you are quite bright with many good well researched ideas. Instead however, you tend to inflame and condescend which makes you look like a fool and devalues your opinion. Because of this, it's not worth my time or others to engage you.

Mookie

This ******************************bag doesn't seem to have a shred of an actual life outside his association with Delta Airlines. It's sad and pathetic. Can you imagine tying your self worth to a company that had to hide in bankruptcy to survive?

 

[SIG600]

Congrats guys! That profit is really, "cute." Well done.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Let's compare Alaskas total profit over the last 10 years, to Deltas. You guys are just digging yourselves out of a hole. How soon you forget.

 

[General Lee]

Let's compare Alaskas total profit over the last 10 years, to Deltas. You guys are just digging yourselves out of a hole. How soon you forget.

No, the $2.7 billion profit in 2013 just eclipsed 5 of your yearly profits, and the DL debt has been reduced too by $9 billion in 4 years! This is a revenue monster.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[moochild11]

So what are your costs compared to alaskas? Don't you understand the concept of % profit? We win on every single
Metric you can find when comparing profitability..your biggest quarter ever paled in comparison to our % profit that quarter..that means that on a per flight basis we make more money..our costs on a per flight basis are less..I guess in your little world a tech company that makes $1 billion on $3 billion in revenue is less profitable than a car company making $3 billion on $50 billion in revenue..Wall Street doesn't seem to buy your thesis..

 

[General Lee]

So what are your costs compared to alaskas? Don't you understand the concept of % profit? We win on every single
Metric you can find when comparing profitability..your biggest quarter ever paled in comparison to our % profit that quarter..that means that on a per flight basis we make more money..our costs on a per flight basis are less..I guess in your little world a tech company that makes $1 billion on $3 billion in revenue is less profitable than a car company making $3 billion on $50 billion in revenue..Wall Street doesn't seem to buy your thesis..

Uhhhhhh, when there is a PROFIT of $2.7 billion, that means what's left over AFTER paying the COSTS.... Come on Jim Cramer!

Look, DL is a lot larger than your airline, makes a lot more money, and is establishing a large INTL hub at your main hub city. I can see why you are getting defensive, but a lot of the new routes will probably cater to actual DL connections, which you won't provide as much in the future. You in turn for some reason decided to put planes into SLC, with zero feed yourselves. That is gonna be interesting, and we'll see how it goes.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Yes, you are reading that right. The irony is so thick you can cut if with a knife. Over 600 RJs on property and he's the one acting like this. Nice.

Such is life for the Village Idiot.

There's Red-liar again, speaking out of his rear end again. 600 RJs? Now? Uhhhh noooo. What's really funny is he and his Corndogs have been outsourcing flights to his B-Scale brothers at AT, flying the same type planes (737s) for less pay! That didn't happen at any successful merger. The pay should have been the same on same type equipment immediately in their joint contract, but Red and his union didn't want that I guess. Talk about outsourcing, and so much for future loyalty!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[moochild11]

Jeezus general..you really have no clue when it comes to financials....

 

[redflyer65]

There's Red-liar again, speaking out of his rear end again. 600 RJs? Now? Uhhhh noooo. What's really funny is he and his Corndogs have been outsourcing flights to his B-Scale brothers at AT, flying the same type planes (737s) for less pay! That didn't happen at any successful merger. The pay should have been the same on same type equipment immediately in their joint contract, but Red and his union didn't want that I guess. Talk about outsourcing, and so much for future loyalty!



Bye Bye---General Lee

Hey Village Idiot,

I just pulled 600 out of thin air because I didn't want to do the research. But here's the interesting thing......I'm being extremely generous with that number. In your heyday, it was right at 1 thousand RJ's. So you really think your down 400? Absolutely no way.

All you have is the AirTran transition? That's done and over in 11 months. I hope you're working on new material because even now it's lame and stale.

You remember SW has zero RJs and no codeshare right? Sure you do!

And Moo is right, you have no clue about how to read financial statements.

Full Steam Ahead.

 

[Mea25000]

Well thanks Dal for taking me to the great city of New York... I am sure I will see the general here... I think the mayor gave him the key to the city? His company made 2.7 billion and they must have given most of it to him. Oh I know my seats are no where near as good as yours. I will be slum'n in the cute Alaska section. Should be fun go Hawks!

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Ignore the troll.

 

[General Lee]

Hey Village Idiot,

I just pulled 600 out of thin air because I didn't want to do the research. But here's the interesting thing......I'm being extremely generous with that number. In your heyday, it was right at 1 thousand RJ's. So you really think your down 400? Absolutely no way.

All you have is the AirTran transition? That's done and over in 11 months. I hope you're working on new material because even now it's lame and stale.

You remember SW has zero RJs and no codeshare right? Sure you do!

And Moo is right, you have no clue about how to read financial statements.

Full Steam Ahead.

You pull a lot out of thin air, and never do the research. Thanks for verifying that. I stated at the joint contract you SHOULD HAVE had equal pay on same planes, otherwise you have a B-scale. How can you not see that? DL/NWA both had 757s, and they were given SAME PAY at the joint contract. Same with 777/744. Same with 765/A330. You guys did that because you didn't mind treating your brothers like poop, and that will get you in the end with disloyalty.

And when did MooMoo become Jim Cramer? He asked who has lower costs? Who cares? I care about profits and my own profit sharing check, which is $4K more than last years. I'm great you guys love the financials, I read the highlights.


And aren't you still code sharing with AT? Sure you are, and it's B-scale pilots thanks to YOU. Shame on you. You and your union had the chance to observe two different mergers, and you followed the wrong one. Anyone else that you potentially could merge with will be taking you to task, they've already observed your treachery.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Well thanks Dal for taking me to the great city of New York... I am sure I will see the general here... I think the mayor gave him the key to the city? His company made 2.7 billion and they must have given most of it to him. Oh I know my seats are no where near as good as yours. I will be slum'n in the cute Alaska section. Should be fun go Hawks!

Thursday, January 30, 2014, 10:27am CST

United vs. Delta: The Super Bowl battle in the air
Lewis Lazare

Chicago Business Journal


Call it that other 2014 Super Bowl battle. The one that won't be making quite so many headlines. Still it involves a fierce match-up between two of the world's largest air carriers ? Chicago-based United Airlines (NYSE: UAL) and Atlanta-based Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL).

While the Denver Broncos and Seattle Seahawks are on the field Sunday at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey battling to become world champs, United and Delta employees will be watching intently from the sidelines and waiting eagerly to find out which airline will be able to claim bragging rights as official carrier of the 2014 world champions.

The United cheering squad is squarely on the side of the Broncos, as the airline is that team's official carrier.

As part of its sponsorship deal with the Broncos, United provides a charter aircraft to fly the team to all away games, including, of course, the Super Bowl.


Normally the Broncos fly on a United narrow-body Boeing 757 aircraft to away games. But for the special, high-profile journey from Denver to Newark Liberty International Airport in New Jersey for the Super Bowl, the Broncos were treated to a trip on one of United's much-larger widebody Boeing 767-400 series planes, as well as a full crew on board ? at least one of whom was decked out in a stylish ensemble in white, orange and royal blue, the Broncos' official team colors.

But let's not forget about those Seahawks. While United was coddling the Broncos en route to Newark Liberty, a Delta charter plane and no doubt equally-attentive crew were flying the Seahawks to Newark as well. Of course Delta would like to see the Seahawks prevail, as the airline is the Seattle team's proud official carrier.

One shouldn't read too much into any one aspect of this behind-the-scenes Super Bowl airline battle, which is just a small part of the entire 2014 Super Bowl saga.

But it should be noted, just for the record of course, that the Broncos plane arrived first at a dedicated hangar at the Newark airport that is earmarked for arrival festivities.



Bye Bye---General Lee

"Of course Delta would like to see the Seahawks prevail, as the airline is the Seattle team's proud official carrier."

 

[moochild11]

"Who cares about costs"...deltas sure been down that road before

 

[General Lee]

"Who cares about costs"...deltas sure been down that road before

Really? You don't think DL management cares about that? They are clearly outperforming your management. Good one! And, they snagged the Seahawks. 12th Man!!!! Yeeesssssss!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[moochild11]

Outperforming on what metric? Gross Margin? Casm? rasm? Domestic yield? Net margin? Jd power? Wall Street journal airline awards? Stock performance? Maybe you could get into specifics once instead of bloviating about deltas obvious greatness..and you got the seahawks because you have 2 aisles..and you are the one who said "who cares about costs"