Alaska hiring

[Tejas-Jet]

This must be the only airline in the world where you have to interview for different pilot duties. (check airman, instructor, etc.) Do you have to interview for upgrade too? haha. Just seems like HR is a bit out of control.

Uhhhh...not really. At "my house" you also interview to be a check airman..

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

This must be the only airline in the world where you have to interview for different pilot duties. (check airman, instructor, etc.) Do you have to interview for upgrade too? haha. Just seems like HR is a bit out of control.

We have to interview? I was going to just show up and start teaching. Good thing I read about this first!

Joking aside, I was on the Second Floor Friday, and they said growth predictions were cut to 6%. (Read less hiring.)

 

[dashtrash]

We have to interview? I was going to just show up and start teaching. Good thing I read about this first!

Joking aside, I was on the Second Floor Friday, and they said growth predictions were cut to 6%. (Read less hiring.)

It's the unexpected age 63 attrition that could throw their hiring plans out the window. The smart ones will retire before the lump sum is calculated using the corporate bond rate vs. the treasury rate. The lump sum will be cut in half when the switch is made.

 

[igneousy2]

This must be the only airline in the world where you have to interview for different pilot duties. (check airman, instructor, etc.) Do you have to interview for upgrade too? haha. Just seems like HR is a bit out of control.

I know right...I long for the good ole days when it as assumed you could instruct just because you could fly and were squadron buddies with the check airman. <-----NOT!

 

[Mamma]

Well, I don't see what HR has to do with hiring check airmen. Let the CPs and other check airmen figure that out.

 

[SVA_402]

Well, I don't see what HR has to do with hiring check airmen. Let the CPs and other check airmen figure that out.

This was my point exactly. Not so much that people shouldn't interview to be a check airman or instructor, but what on earth would HR possibly know about what makes a good check pilot? (or new-hire pilot for that matter...)

 

[Emb120Trash]

So is the interviewing complete? Have the the 16 vacancies been filled? Will interviewing resume after next bid. Whopping 8-10 interviews/month?

 

[Mamma]

So is the interviewing complete? Have the the 16 vacancies been filled? Will interviewing resume after next bid. Whopping 8-10 interviews/month?

Only putting 36 through training until August then going to 60 more by year's end. Still getting furloughs through training and a Dec class for new hires. So, I guess there is no big rush now.

 

[igneousy2]

This was my point exactly. Not so much that people shouldn't interview to be a check airman or instructor, but what on earth would HR possibly know about what makes a good check pilot? (or new-hire pilot for that matter...)

Maybe - prevent someone with racist views from being put in a supervisory position?

 

[Mamma]

Maybe - prevent someone with racist views from being put in a supervisory position?

So your stand is HR is the only entity that can spot a racist? Do you think TK, SD or any of the others would put up with a racist?

 

[igneousy2]

So your stand is HR is the only entity that can spot a racist? Do you think TK, SD or any of the others would put up with a racist?

Nope, but TK and SD probably wouldn't look at these things with the same ultra-sensitivity that an HR person would...and that is there role. It seems the system worked...Applicant makes offensive comment...HR points it out recommends termination...chief pilot prevents termination...returns pilot to the line...probably a good pilot . Call me crazy, but if you can't keep it under wraps for a 45 minute interview, how are you going to do in a 4 hour sim session or a 2 week ground school?

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I guess there is a shake-up on the 2nd Floor. People are moving around.

 

[Mamma]

Nope, but TK and SD probably wouldn't look at these things with the same ultra-sensitivity that an HR person would...and that is there role. It seems the system worked...Applicant makes offensive comment...HR points it out recommends termination...chief pilot prevents termination...returns pilot to the line...probably a good pilot . Call me crazy, but if you can't keep it under wraps for a 45 minute interview, how are you going to do in a 4 hour sim session or a 2 week ground school?

I guess I don't have all the facts. Seems to me if someone made a racist remark, why would TK or SD keep them on the line? I wouldn't. Why fly a "known racist" with other FOs? OR, maybe HR overreacted because they don't really understand pilots or the background of many pilots. Example being HR promoting diversity (can be a good thing) at the expense of experience. Maybe this captain had to deal with a pilot like this and that was the point he was trying to make. Who knows.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Believe me, I heard the story straight from the horse's mouth and nothing he said in the interview could be construed as racist. Unless the HR gal was ultrasensitive. Unfortunately, HR IS ultrasensitive. Wanna get fired from AS? Let any kind of racial or religious commentary get back to them.

For example, I had an F/A start ranting about one of the little Ethiopian Muslim gals from fleet service. The caterers and another F/A heard the whole rant. After giving it some thought, I called AFA ProStans and told them the story. Their response? "You probably just saved her job. The quickest way to get fired around here is to make any kind of racial or religious outburst."

 

[Old School 737]

I guess there is a shake-up on the 2nd Floor. People are moving around.

Its out now. New Chief Pilot to come....... mmmmm?

 

[Boxboy]

Its out now. New Chief Pilot to come....... mmmmm?

Different body, same soul... always is, unless he/she is willing to get fired in less than a month.

 

[Fubijaakr]

Just another bobbin' head doll...

 

[SVA_402]

Maybe - prevent someone with racist views from being put in a supervisory position?

Perhaps having HR involved in pilot interviews is good, but they should not in any way be in complete control. I've always thought just having one HR employee on a panel, and all they can do is provide their input, would be the best for everyone. Most reasonable pilots I talk to are against HR being involved in hiring. The fact that this racism issue even came up is a testament to that.

 

[charlieB]

My experience with many airline interviews is HR wants first right of refusal. You see an actual pilot near the end of the process. HR wants to ensure you're the "right material." This means willingness to sincerely and continuously gush about their company ad nauseum. Except they don't get nauseous...they can't hear it enough.​

 

[igneousy2]

Perhaps having HR involved in pilot interviews is good, but they should not in any way be in complete control. I've always thought just having one HR employee on a panel, and all they can do is provide their input, would be the best for everyone. Most reasonable pilots I talk to are against HR being involved in hiring. The fact that this racism issue even came up is a testament to that.

I agree with most of what was posted here in principal. That being said we live in a litigious society and we can't avoid it by burying our head in the sand. And while it is one thing for a line pilot or line flight attendant to make an inappropriate remark, it is a whole other matter when that person is in some position of power that an instructoror or check-airman would be. If you are going to be in power you've got to have the capability to not say something controversial for 45 minutes....come on. If that happens right before a failed checkride it could cost Alaska large amounts of money...whether or not race had anything to do with the failed checkride.