Alaska and Delta: Frenemies?

[Old School 737]

I guess that Delta don't want to handle us anymore in a bunch of stations ..

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I guess that Delta don't want to handle us anymore in a bunch of stations ..

Do they know something we don't? Where did you hear that?

Anywhere we go that Delta goes, so does American or eek, USAir. Or maybe we could uh, have our own, uh, Menzes. . . do it?

 

[Mea25000]

RA has pushed as hard as he possible could.. AS said no. AS is now on the brink of announcing the most exciting news in its history. Stay tuned 2014 just might be a unbelievable... Or we will all may be out of a job soon.

 

[Dan Roman]

In this case it's planned growth they've been prepping for for a long time.
And as much as it does seem like swa's mgmt team is getting like everyone else- they do believe the culture has a positive monetary impact and are smart enough to get something big out of the big growth that is planned.

Make no mistake- the AT purchase has cost SWA money over morale.

And here's me just flying the jet... Tea leaves though

You do agree that if SWA actually tried to merge with AK it means the SWA "culture" would be dead and gone? Do they really want to stop what they are doing and try to be the 4th legacy with no International presence?

 

[Old School 737]

RA has pushed as hard as he possible could.. AS said no. AS is now on the brink of announcing the most exciting news in its history. Stay tuned 2014 just might be a unbelievable... Or we will all may be out of a job soon.

?????? Do tell ??? What you know !!

 

[waveflyer]

You do agree that if SWA actually tried to merge with AK it means the SWA "culture" would be dead and gone? Do they really want to stop what they are doing and try to be the 4th legacy with no International presence?

Time will tell

No merger or acquisition is anything I hope for

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

?????? Do tell ??? What you know !!

You haven't heard about The 2014 Plan?!?

We're going to optimize our synchronicities by synergizing to 20 -800ETOPS and 14 -900ER.

 

[CesnaCaptn]

RA has pushed as hard as he possible could.. AS said no. AS is now on the brink of announcing the most exciting news in its history. Stay tuned 2014 just might be a unbelievable... Or we will all may be out of a job soon.

Ooh, Ooh, let me guess:

New uniforms?
New brand?
BOD approves $100M stock buy back?
September 2014 aircraft deliver moved up to March 2014?
Bid 201405 will have 12 new captains instead of 10?

 

[Old School 737]

Had a dream that Alaska bought JetBlue !! So it must be true !!

Rebranded the whole thing JetAmerica!!

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Had a dream that Alaska bought JetBlue !! So it must be true !!

Rebranded the whole thing JetAmerica!!

That would be one messy SLI!

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Staple Virgin.

 

[Old School 737]

That would be one messy SLI!

Why would it be any different than any other ... ALPo vs a non union but with the macaskill //Bond (however you spell it) stuff wouldn't it just go to arbitration anyway?..

 

[CesnaCaptn]

Why would it be any different than any other ... ALPo vs a non union but with the macaskill //Bond (however you spell it) stuff wouldn't it just go to arbitration anyway?..

I don't doubt the SLI would go to arbitration. I just think AS pilots will feel burned one way or another. The demographics and total compensation packages vary greatly between our two companies. Our most senior captains have been here for 30+ years. How long has B6 been around? Their junior captain is an '07 hire, Alaska's...? Their pilot group is probably relatively young. We bring retirements but, B6 has a history of growing their fleet. My guess is more of their pilot group is looking to apply to the "big 3" more so than our pilot group (subject to change at any time, this is more a measure of the current suck at any given airline).

 

[Old School 737]

I heard that the company said something about buying Virgin during contract negotiations... But who knows what that say is true during talks. Hell they had negotiating committee and MEC convinced this was such a great deal so.... Then pow another 55mil to the share holders per year and finish the record stock buyback .. Etc... Etc ... Had to laugh at the water cooler today talking about the JD power awards ..if they think they're going to get one by stringing the fight attend along with a crappy deal after we have seen how well they are doing .. They got another thing coming... And it won't be another Dam award..

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Why would it be any different than any other ... ALPo vs a non union but with the macaskill //Bond (however you spell it) stuff wouldn't it just go to arbitration anyway?..

Mccaskill/Bond requires a bargaining agent representing a certain group for the protections to apply. So when opposing unions, ala AA/TWA occurred (which spawned the legislation) the rule for fair and equitable would apply.

Non-union? Sorry...no help there.