airTran Training

[RadioClash]

What hazing and abusive behavior? Do you have examples? Seriously I am an FO here and have not had any problems with any captains. No hazing abuse etc.

Is it the captains that like to tell you when to call ground, ramp, tower etc? (tell them to take a hike, I have been in this industry for x years, I was a 121 captain for x years, I think I know what I am doing, at least that is what I tell them) They don't let you fly? Do they throw crap at you? Do they yell?

I am having a great time here. Sorry that it is not working out for you.

 

[XRMEFLYER]

I'm not talking about work rules or pay and I think you know this. You could give most people this schedule and this pay and then treat them like crap and its not worth it to them(most of them). The one thing that I've learned from airtran is that happiness, personal dignity, and self respect (don't have any personal dignity left, but..) are worth more to me than materialistic mumbo jumbo. (Sound like a commie, but its true).

I mean you are really just helping me make my point. I would almost pay to get away from this abusive environment. Actually eventually I will if you think about it. Ty you are a captain on the 737, supposedly, you are pretty much immune to the hazing and abusive behavior that is directed to FO's. The old school eastern you are a piece of crap until you upgrade attitude. WTF would you even know what I am talking about? I am a professional pilot or I was until I came here, I will not tolerate this for long, I am not in boot camp, I am an adult(technically) with certain expectations from my employer when it comes to professionalism.

I' m sure you do though, don't tell me you have never had any problems with the 'culture' of the company. I really don't think that I can believe it. Especially for someone who was there for 5 years.

"...don't have any personal dignity left, but..." and "pay to get away from this abusive environment"
Someone get me a tissue I'm getting all misty eyed over here!
Suck it up and be a man for a change Nancy!
Send a resume to the ACLU flight department. You guys could all hold hands, sing Kumbaya and reaffirm one anothers personal dignity.

 

[Airtran717]

Just for the record.

About 15 of us have posted on here that we actually like it here and think its not that bad a place to be and YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE posting that you hate it and it sucks, not one person that works here has agreed with you.

So either.....

A ) All 15 of us are completely whacked out of our heads and need to put down our bongs and report to gate double zero(00) immediately!

or

B) Its you and you wouldnt be satisfied anywhere.

Im betting the answer is (B).

Now in all fairness maybe there was an isolated incident that you went through where you felt like it wasnt handled with complete professionalism. But I'm willing to bet those kind of things happen no matter what airline you are at. Either way, have another six pack man. Everything always works out in the end. I dont think this is the Utopia, but I do sincerely like it here and have been treated very well by everyone.

 

[xrayojilp]

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[Airtran717]

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[Airtran717]

It looks like you figured it out what gate 00 was. The next beer is on me.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm not putting anything down!

Just for the record.

. . .All 15 of us . . . . need to put down our bongs and report to gate double zero(00) immediately!

Heh-heh . . . you're killin' me . . . .

First, they'll have to pry that bong from my kung-fu grip!


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[Phaedrus]

I'm leaving AirTran. I just got a class date to begin training at FedEx.
I have nothing but respect and good memories (OK, one or two that I've flown with have been wankers) of the pilot group at AirTran. I owe a debt of gratitude to all those who helped me become a better pilot in my time there.
{{echo on}} We have our labor/management issues, but overall I've had a great time, good QOL, and good pay. Frankly, because of many personal factors, I had to think long and hard whether or not to go to FedEx.
I say: Rock on my fellow Citrus brothers and sisters.

 

[Citrus531]

I like the Cpt's with 64 or 65*** empl #'s that don't know what double zero is when I say on the inrange "yes sir I've got a message for you, they'll need you to take that open book test in OO" and he goes..."what's 00"?

 

[AppBrookie]

I've been here 2.5 years Very Very Very Happy!!!!!! It was my first choice!!!!!
Could things be better??? Sure, there's things I would change. Is it what I had at my dream job 5 years ago? No, but those days are long gone=I would rather work for "Penny Pinchers" and have a job! If you think this is a bad gig, you've not been around much.

 

[xrayojilp]

I've been here 2.5 years Very Very Very Happy!!!!!! It was my first choice!!!!!
Could things be better??? Sure, there's things I would change. Is it what I had at my dream job 5 years ago? No, but those days are long gone=I would rather work for "Penny Pinchers" and have a job! If you think this is a bad gig, you've not been around much.

HE hehhehehehehehehehhehe

 

[RadioClash]

Do you have any examples of this abuse and hazing?

 

[RadioClash]

What AirTran "penny pinches" on is the IT dept. It's called keeping it simple

Who needs huge LCD's at the gate with the Flt #, desitnation, seats available, seats reserved, seats claimed, standbys for upgrade, standbys for seats, etc.? It's nice but not necessary. That is where AirTran does the "penny pinching." Crap if there is a choice between the huge LCD's or aircraft, well I guess a majority would take the aircraft. All you need is a board with the flight # and the destination. Simple.

Who needs a huge corporate complex covering X amount of acres with a dorm, swimming pool, offices for 40+ vp's, a cafeteria, etc.? I will be glad to have more aircraft.

AirTran mgt believe it or not does things pretty well as far as spending money is concerned. No huge corporate complexes, no LCD's at the gates, no complex expensive BS. So we get more aircraft.

As far as training goes. No spoon feeding. Either learn it or get out. Sounds fair to me.

I am having a great time here. I hope that it is my last stop.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm leaving AirTran. I just got a class date to begin training at FedEx.
I have nothing but respect and good memories . . . . . I say: Rock on my fellow Citrus brothers and sisters.

Congratulations to you, for getting the job that you prefer. This place will be a little worse for your departure, but you'll be helping the rest of us by sending a message to management, and that message is . . . . . "This isn't the only gig in town, so you'd better give these guys the contract they want, or spend it in on a new revolving door for the Training Center".

We'll listen for ya on that "Hali Lamma" Arrival into MEM . . . . . ! :beer:

 

[Gorilla]

Hey 80for80 I know I just asked this on another thread but what does 80for80 mean? what is the significance of that name?

OMG. Without reading this whole thread, and apologies if this has been answered, I am amazed that someone would pick that for a name.

80 for 80 (for 80) means this: "I will take your job while you negotiate or strike. I will fly your MD-80 for 80 hours a month for $80K a year." It is a scab mantra and comes from many years ago.