Airtran recalls all furloughed today

[Hamburger]

Glad to hear the good news.

 

[Lear70]

There will probably be quite a few that bypass.

IF they found jobs flying other places, in all likelihood, they were required to sign training contracts. They may elect to stay and finish out their contract before rerturning or at least finishing as much of it as they can to minimize the expense.

Some may not return at all - if they found a nice corporate gig local to their home and ended up home most nights, they may find they like the lifestyle better if they have family. They also may not want to gamble on a busy summer just to get furloughed again in the late Fall... Kinda sounds like Sun Country's modus operandi.

Who knows, might actually end up HIRING a class or two by Spring.

 

[Colonel Savage]

There will probably be quite a few that bypass...Who knows, might actually end up HIRING a class or two by Spring.

What would have to happen for them to decide to hire again? Can they still decide to keep the two 737's they're planning on selling, or are they good as gone?

To go through the entire furloughed list to staff three airplanes must mean they're going to fly the heck out of them.

 

[Lear70]

I don't know, there's no telling how many pilots have training contracts which is the only way they can bypass if no one junior to them remains on furlough. It would likely have to be a substantial number, at least enough to have a hard time staffing and enough to run a class, but if they do hire, be very, very careful.

1. After the peak summer season, you could find yourself furloughed... AirTran may be moving towards a Sun Country seasonal approach to staffing.

2. Instead of getting furloughed, you could be fired. You'd be probationary and AirTran just tried to fire the probationary pilots to get something they wanted. The union blinked. This time, MemRat will be in place and there won't be any blinking, no side letters without Member Ratification, so a new-hire could find themselves terminated 3-4 months after they got hired and there's nothing they could do about it except sue and wait.

3. There likely wouldn't be hiring for a LONG time to come after that, with no capacity increases planned for years. If you didn't get furloughed or fired, you'd get stuck on reserve for several years.

Management has made AirTran a horrible risk for new-hires. It can be a great place to work, and hopefully will be again someday, but they'll have to give the pilots a new contract and stop their antagonistic ways first...

 

[Browntothebone]

instructor dudette said:
Were you born a moron or did it evolve?

Gup

Instructor Dude says.... Mission accomplished!

 

[Browntothebone]

I don't know, there's no telling how many pilots have training contracts which is the only way they can bypass if no one junior to them remains on furlough. It would likely have to be a substantial number, at least enough to have a hard time staffing and enough to run a class, but if they do hire, be very, very careful.

1. After the peak summer season, you could find yourself furloughed... AirTran may be moving towards a Sun Country seasonal approach to staffing.

2. Instead of getting furloughed, you could be fired. You'd be probationary and AirTran just tried to fire the probationary pilots to get something they wanted. The union blinked. This time, MemRat will be in place and there won't be any blinking, no side letters without Member Ratification, so a new-hire could find themselves terminated 3-4 months after they got hired and there's nothing they could do about it except sue and wait.

3. There likely wouldn't be hiring for a LONG time to come after that, with no capacity increases planned for years. If you didn't get furloughed or fired, you'd get stuck on reserve for several years.

Management has made AirTran a horrible risk for new-hires. It can be a great place to work, and hopefully will be again someday, but they'll have to give the pilots a new contract and stop their antagonistic ways first...

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[Browntothebone]

I don't know, there's no telling how many pilots have training contracts which is the only way they can bypass if no one junior to them remains on furlough. It would likely have to be a substantial number, at least enough to have a hard time staffing and enough to run a class, but if they do hire, be very, very careful.

1. After the peak summer season, you could find yourself furloughed... AirTran may be moving towards a Sun Country seasonal approach to staffing.

2. Instead of getting furloughed, you could be fired. You'd be probationary and AirTran just tried to fire the probationary pilots to get something they wanted. The union blinked. This time, MemRat will be in place and there won't be any blinking, no side letters without Member Ratification, so a new-hire could find themselves terminated 3-4 months after they got hired and there's nothing they could do about it except sue and wait.

3. There likely wouldn't be hiring for a LONG time to come after that, with no capacity increases planned for years. If you didn't get furloughed or fired, you'd get stuck on reserve for several years.

Management has made AirTran a horrible risk for new-hires. It can be a great place to work, and hopefully will be again someday, but they'll have to give the pilots a new contract and stop their antagonistic ways first...

Are you still fired from airtran for insurance fraud?

 

[ces152]

If we do end up hiring, I hope they offer the first class to the guys/gals who were suppose to be in the April 27th class of last year, that was cancelled. I know a few people from that class that definetely want to come to AT.

 

[PCL_128]

2. Instead of getting furloughed, you could be fired.

As crappy as LOA 9 was, it did at least include some protection from this happening again. It prohibits the company from firing probies without cause.

 

[Lear70]

Are you still fired from airtran for insurance fraud?

Nope, I'm still fired from AirTran for my union involvement and killing 2 T.A.'s and still awaiting Arbitration, but thanks for your concern.

I'm certain that's why you posted, right?

p.s. Does "Browntothebone" translate into "full of sh*t"? Just wondering...