AirTran Contract issues

[Lear70]

I guess it probably is for some people, not for others. My buddy at CAL has been crediting 85 hours with 15 days off on the 757, which is about what I could do at AAI with the same days off. Maybe your buddy is on a different aircraft that doesn't fly as much daily...?

January is probably going to be the first month in a long time where those rigs at AAI will actually result in a large amount of soft pay. Usually the lines are built to minimize those soft pay credits so there hasn't historically been a lot of soft pay.

Reserve pay is another story, and NO carrier has it as good as we do... or rather, than we *DID* before they stopped allowing reserves to drop reserve days, but I digress.

You're absolutely right about hiring timing - it's always everything. I've always been lucky enough to land a job after something goes south with an employer, but always end up on the back end of a hiring boom. Sucks for me...

 

[maxblast72]

Lear70 you are right, most of our lines are built to minimize soft pay. But we still have pairings that have a day with a single leg, or two short legs that still pay 4 hrs where at Continental I believe you just get paid for what you fly.

Not counting the reserve soft pay for sitting at home unused, Airtran reserves have alot more 1 leg days than lines holders and probably more situations where the trip rig kicks in (5 or 6 day reserve periods last summer). All in all, I'll take our soft pay over what I hear they have at Continental (I'll take their route network however).

Talking about timing, do you remember those guys (GW, PB, and a few others) at Express One that turned down an offer to be in some of the first few classes at Jetblue back in 2000? Talk about bad timing.

Gonna watch that Cowgirl game this weekend? Thinking about heading out to the big D to hang out with old buddies and root against them Cowgirls. I owe them some crap after all the crap they gave me about the Steelers last weekend.

 

[Lear70]

Talking about timing, do you remember those guys (GW, PB, and a few others) at Express One that turned down an offer to be in some of the first few classes at Jetblue back in 2000? Talk about bad timing.

I sure do... I remember wanting to smack 'em. Not literally of course, but I had applied, got called, and only had 800 hours in the 727 at that point and all Lear time at 18,500 pounds before that. jetBlue required 1,000 in something over 20k pounds (200 hours short), yet they hired my buddy who had left Lear flying and had 1,200 hours of F/O time in the ATR. :angryfire

9 months later after the first EOI furloughs and then 9/11, those guys were kicking themselves... Oh well, you know what they say about hindsight.

Gonna watch that Cowgirl game this weekend? Thinking about heading out to the big D to hang out with old buddies and root against them Cowgirls. I owe them some crap after all the crap they gave me about the Steelers last weekend.

It's not OUR fault you have bad taste in football teams.

And yes, I'm going to be home watching the game on the big screen. Right after I watch the Colts beat San Diego. Should be a great game day... if Romo won't drop the ball on a game-winning field goal attempt... again.



Say Hi to everyone for me if you go.

 

[Nindiri]

Most likely, our reserve rules will remain the same right up until my type ride. The next day, the new reserve system will take affect, having come straight from the deepest pits of Hell where Satan himself wrote the contract language.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Most likely, our reserve rules will remain the same right up until my type ride. The next day, the new reserve system will take affect, having come straight from the deepest pits of Hell where Satan himself wrote the contract language.

No, No, No, the TA got voted down!! Hopefully we will never see that language again.

 

[-9Capt]

Airtran's best time to be hired was between 2002 and 2004,.

The best time to have been hired at AirTran was in August, 2001. That would make you a 68xxx number and put you right around 500 of 1700 today.

Summer of 2001 was when we ratified our current contract, and we've been hiring fairly stedily since. Life before this contract was nothing short of horriffic.