AirTran announces new service to Key West

[carl p]

Yep, less weight & more thrust means the 737 is better suited for the job over the 27. I flew the DC-9-15 (-10 w/cargo door) into 5,000 ft with no problems. Of all the jets I've flown, the guppy is my choice for short fields. We used to operate the 727 into some short runways out in Micronesia, I miss those days...

 

[Ty Webb]

Oh, it'll be a breeze . . . . until you're boarded and fueled, and learn that it just quit raining heavily about an hour ago, the wind is variable and gusty and the tires or brakes are on a STW, but "within limits" . . . and you decline to depart, and become the next hostage, accused of a "job action".

This will get interesting.

 

[Metro752]

I really hope AirTran starts beating other carriers brains in by offering "mainline equipment" service into cities that have a lot of RJ flights.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Yep we did , and the 737 could easily do it.

Didn't those 727's have nose wheel brakes?

 

[Colonel Savage]

Nose wheel brakes were origionally installed by Boeing, but later removed.

 

[shuttlepilot]

Flew the Emb170 in and out of there for US airways Express, never was an issue, never used anywhere close to the whole runway...

 

[Lolikoka]

Original Piedmont

The original Piedmont used to fly EYW to/from MIA with 737's - back in the 70's and 80's.

 

[gt1900]

Alaska used to fly 73's into Dutch Harbor. Its only 3900 ft. 4800 ft should be a piece of cake!

 

[T3700]

Alaska doesn't train their pilots via a handout.

 

[rajflyboy]

I can't see a 737 having the numbers to do this if the runway is WET.

Looks like more Hard Landings on Air Tran Flights! No problem since your FOM REQUIRES hard landings.

 

[Ty Webb]

Alaska doesn't train their pilots via a handout.

Leave it to GT1900 to overlook the obvious. This is the same clown who sees nothing wrong with dispatching with a bleed inop from ATL-CUN.

 

[gt1900]

Whats wrong Ty. Not good enough to get a 737 stopped in 4800 ft? Or mabye your not good enough to get one off in 4800 ft. Either way, maybe you shouldn't bid for Key West when it comes up! The Alaska guys did it in 3900ft in Alaska weather, your complaining about a runway thats 4800 ft long? Your probably one of those guys who get worked up at MDW as well. Does someone really have to train you how to land the airplane at the 1500ft mark and get it stopped in 3300ft...... With autobrakes? Just how much runway do you need... 7000ft.... 8000 ft..... If you can't operate the airplane within the performance envelope of the airplane maybe you should become a dispatcher!

The performance runs have already been done in Key West. And they proved it could easily be done. Sorry your abilities don't allow you to operate the aircraft in the performance envelope of the a/c.

 

[Moustache]

Flew the Emb170 in and out of there for US airways Express, never was an issue, never used anywhere close to the whole runway...

Noted...Thanks

 

[rajflyboy]

Whats wrong Ty. Not good enough to get a 737 stopped in 4800 ft? Or mabye your not good enough to get one off in 4800 ft. Either way, maybe you shouldn't bid for Key West when it comes up! The Alaska guys did it in 3900ft in Alaska weather, your complaining about a runway thats 4800 ft long? Your probably one of those guys who get worked up at MDW as well. Does someone really have to train you how to land the airplane at the 1500ft mark and get it stopped in 3300ft...... With autobrakes? Just how much runway do you need... 7000ft.... 8000 ft..... If you can't operate the airplane within the performance envelope of the airplane maybe you should become a dispatcher!

The performance runs have already been done in Key West. And they proved it could easily be done. Sorry your abilities don't allow you to operate the aircraft in the performance envelope of the a/c.

If you understood performance you would know that the bigger problem is the take off numbers. The landing numbers are not the problem.

 

[ultrarunner]

Yeah, landing numbers from a MCO departure should be no problem. Heck, if SWA's little computer says you can land on a 5000 feet, in winter, with contamination, no autobrakes, and a tail wind, you can go into EYW!

T/O could be an issue at times. Brake energy limits might come into play unless it's a terminating flight.

Prly no FLEX T/O's.