So...what you're saying is...that you are one of those "not very sharp people" that was allowed in before they slammed the gate? That's the way it seems to me. BTW, I find it hard to believe that ANY training that takes as long as most 121 carriers is difficult in the least for a halfway competent pilot.Fly-By-Cable said:
Don,DonVerita said:
Tell that to the prior Midway, Vanguard and CCAir pilots who have busted a ride at AirTran. Not to pick on those guys in particular, but the training here is intense, as anyone who had gone through. The DC-9 CAPT pass rate was less then 50% for a while.FracCapt said:
I think one of the things that Airtran is looking for with their 121 requirement is people who have experience working with dispatchers, FAs, ramp agents, customer service, catering and all the other jobs.Swerpipe said:
Maybe they are using these requirements as a true equalizer for hiring. I get sick and tired of people beating the minority drum in any capacity, but especially in aviation. When you show up for an interview they shouldn't know if you are black or white, male or female. Your EXPERIENCE should matter, not the color of your skin or the fact that you are a female! Back when the majors were hiring, how many people did I get see passed up for someone with less than half of their experience for someone that fit into a nice little "category." (Note, I was still an FO, I am not talking about myself) Give me a break, earn something for yourself! What ever happened to being "judged by the content of their character and not the color of their skin?" I really don't understand for one second how saying that they have specific TIME requirements can have any bearing on color or gender. That is unless of course you think that gender or color supersede real experience. Do not misunderstand me, I fly on a regular basis with minority and female pilots alike and enjoy it. The people I have flown with are great individuals and I hope that they have long and successful careers. I am in no way shape or form insinuating as some that pilots should all be white and male, which would get pretty boring. Some of my best crewmembers have been of the opposite sex or another race. However, statistically there will always be few minority and female pilots. For example, the Black population in the USA is around 10% of the total population. What percentage of the ENTIRE US population are certificated pilots? And from that number, what percentage are qualified to be airline pilots? That has to be an extremely small number. And to place artificial requirements on hiring, “10% of new hires have to be black” or something of the like is unrealistic not to mention unfair. The same goes for women because of how many women chose to be in aviation. There are some careers that more men than women will be drawn to, and vice versa. When was the last time that you heard a public outcry that there are not enough male nurses, or that that there should be more female auto mechanics? Or what if we applied “statistical equality” to college or professional sports instead of who is QUALIFIED to play. Or how often to you see protests at “Historically Black Colleges” because of the lack of diversity there? Can you imagine how soon Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would show up at any school that had in its literature “Historically White College?” It is funny how some people define “diversity.” Some how all white or all male is “bigoted, racist, ect..” but all black, female, etc.. is not. Also, the argument I guess is that someone was born “privileged” and if now we are artificially “privileged” it will make everything ok. Two wrongs making a right maybe?sleepy said:
And I've flown with, trained and checked many females that could fly, think and make decisions FAR better than many males. Including yourself, I'm sure. You are a credit to your race, sex and creed. Thank you for holding up the bar and making all us males look so...well, male.Oakum_Boy said:
