Airport Ready Reserve or Hot Reserve

[PCL_128]

I would bet that there is not a Major that does it though.

AirTran and United both have it.

 

[Kenny]

I can see your point coopervane, but it sucks having done it for almost 2 years now. I agree it's good that the lineholders aren't getting extended as much. I think Air Wisconsin doesn't even put short call guys on ready reserve, but they have ready reserve lines-maybe someone from there can shed some light on that for me.

At AWAC.......

I only ever made the mistake of forgetting to bid once and ended up on RR for a month.

We have RR only lines and generally only 2 CA's and 2 FO's per base. Lineholders and normal RSV's can't be used for RR.

You either get the morning slot or the afternoon slot but you know in advance because you bid on the lines.

You're on for 8 hours, so with our Duty Rig, it works out at 4 hours of pay regardless of whether they use you or you just sleep.

If you get used for something that takes you past your 8 hours, anything over that goes on top of guarantee. So for local guys, you can be home every night and make a bit of extra money. DCA FO RR lines go fairly senior because of this.

The RR lines are 5 on, 3 off, with a contractual minimum of 12 days off.

The RR's are only ever used as a last resort by Crew Scheduling, So things have to be dire, before you to end up being used.

Very specific language in our contract about what has to be in a RR room; Lazy boys, TV, Phone and Fax, etc.

 

[SLUF4]

Kenny,
If you get a RR line there how many times do you do it in a month? Is it like 4 or 5 days in a row every week?

 

[Kenny]

Changed my original post to include that info.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Yikes!!......not so bad at ASA

 

[Raskal]

XJ: 8 hours, no more than 4 consecutive and 10/month. 4 hr min day. Randomly assigned.

 

[Kenny]

Yikes!!......not so bad at ASA

I'll admit, on the face of it it looks bad but it's very easy to credit 85-95 hours a month and only fly 15 hours. You spend more time at home and if you're an FO, you'll end up spending far more nights at home than you would if you were a lineholder or normal RSV.

For a lot of guys that's a really good deal.

 

[UnstableAviator]

We have a provision in our CBA, but not once in 5 years have I heard of any RAH pilot doing hot reserve. Of course, not out of the companies goodwill towards employees, only because we flat out don't have the staffing to do it.

 

[Flyprdu]

Pinnacle pilots are too ashamed to post their ready reserve rules on this thread.

 

[great cornholio]

TSA sit for 10 paid for 5 hours or block flown if called out whichever is greater. No max times per month to do it. Airport reserve guys are called in from home reserve or they use reserve guys finishing up flying...reserve guys have to check out with scheduling at the end of a pairing that was assigned so there are only a few ways this call can go. 1. Released from duty for the day. 2. Released back to home reserve. 3. Sit airport reserve (10 hours starts from show time for the day not when u call scheduling so thats kinda nice) 4. Assigned more flying.

Line holders can NOT sit airport reserve.

 

[GRAAB HIRBOUBI]

XJ: 8 hours, no more than 4 consecutive and 10/month. 4 hr min day. Randomly assigned.

Close.
3 in row Max. 10 Month Max. 8 hrs on, Paid 4 hours plus per diem.
Assigned to people who bid reserve lines, whether senior or junior - although I hardly ever see senior people doing it.

 

[Raskal]

Close.
3 in row Max. 10 Month Max. 8 hrs on, Paid 4 hours plus per diem.
Assigned to people who bid reserve lines, whether senior or junior - although I hardly ever see senior people doing it.

Damn, I couldn't remember the 3 or 4 max. And yeah, I forgot the $11 per diem.

I think it's the most junior 'contactable' (if that's even a word) at the time. In any form, it sucks and rather than actually be used in a productive manner it appears to be more gamesmanship than anything else.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

SkyWest did not have Ready Reserve until the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. Management said it was a temporary program to keep things running smoothly during the Olympics. Management did not keep their word and R. R. has been around ever since. Jerry A is a very deceptive person. At Delta we don't have it and seem to do just fine.

 

[79%N1]

SkyWest did not have Ready Reserve until the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. Management said it was a temporary program to keep things running smoothly during the Olympics. Management did not keep their word and R. R. has been around ever since. Jerry A is a very deceptive person. At Delta we don't have it and seem to do just fine.

Hmm. Wonder if a contract would have helped with that?

 

[OCP]

Hmm. Wonder if a contract would have helped with that?

Didn't help ASA not get it. (but I agree they need a union)

 

[1.3XVso]

Pinnacle:

Coleman Tent.
Coleman cooler.
Coleman flashlight
Coleman Sleeping bag.
All of Coleman camping goods.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

My last US airline had ready reserve at the airport, 5 hours max, and then you went into crew rest, and to the bottom of the reserve board.

Normally, in freight ops, you were on reserve, with a 25 minute callout, and could be on reserve indefinitely, until called for a trip. My record was about 240 consective hours of reserve, and then paged for a trip.

cliff
NBO

 

[Smarta$$]

Pinnacle.
9 hours long.
NO pay
NO per diem
NO limit on times per month
Can be changed from home reserve to airport reserve
They regularly fly you AFTER your RR period is ending

Industry worst, and effectively unchanged in the digusting TA.

 

[DoinTime]

Industry worst, and effectively unchanged in the digusting TA.

It wasn't unchanged in the TA. In the TA you could get put back on ready reserve after a flight assignment!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I was Part 121, and had 240 hours of consecutive reserve once, which I think is a lot worse than 9 hours. Our reserve period had no end, unless you went on days off, called in sick, or were called for a trip.

That is a BIG reason I hope the new Flight/Duty/Rest rules are the same for all Part 121 pilots, and they don't leave Part 121 separate (or Part 125, Part 135, Part 91 Subpart K, 91 Subpart F).

cliff
NBO