airplane off runway in CLE

[LearLove]

not mon morning qbing but - on the 170 when you add gust factor plus ice speeds with high landing weight you get Vapp speeds approaching 150kts. That can be a real bitch when your down to around a 5000ft runway left for rollout.

in these situations (many speed additives) it is wise to go with flaps full landing - you decrease Vapp and ref by 10 kts. -10kts at 70000lb landing weight helps, remember momentum(or energy you need to dissapate on landing) increases with the square of velocity.

 

[MJG]

I will say this: If you don't fly in and out of CLE on a somewhat regular basis, you certainly wouldn't expect to be using the shortest runway available under these weather conditions. The wind hasn't been that strong today so I can only think they must have been plowing 24R at the time and therefore it wasn't available for landing. Therefore they'll go with 28 to keep from having to use 24L for departures and arrivals.

Hopefully if anything good is to come of all this it will be that they quit using Rwy 28 when there is any kind of reduced braking. It just doesn't have any margin for error under these weather conditions, just like 31C at MDW.

 

[D_G]

Probably a gulfstream captain

 

[wmuflyguy]

in these situations (many speed additives) it is wise to go with flaps full landing - you decrease Vapp and ref by 10 kts. -10kts at 70000lb landing weight helps, remember momentum(or energy you need to dissapate on landing) increases with the square of velocity.

Your are right, but used the wrong word. Momentum(p) and Kinetic Energary(KE) are two different things. KE=1/2mass x velocity sqaured. p=mass x velocity.

Kinetic Engergy is what you are describing. It is normally used to calculate things such as braking.

 

[MJG]

Your are right, but used the wrong word. Momentum(p) and Kinetic Energary(KE) are two different things. KE=1/2mass x velocity sqaured. p=mass x velocity.

Kinetic Engergy is what you are describing. It is normally used to calculate things such as braking.

OK so you obviously paid attention in your physics classes up there at Western, but did you skip the spelling class or what?

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[WWEfan]

FI's top ten list of reasons why the regional jet went off the runway:

10) FO was busy frosting his hair on final.

9) Crew was not dressed properly (left hats at home).

8) Crew was distracted by ipod video's, didn't see runway coming.

7) Crew was underpaid.

6) Republicans' fault.

5) Hilary's fault.

4) Jet Blue's fault.

3) Mesa's fault

2) Leather crew jackets.


Annnnnnd, Number 1):


SJS!!!

You forgot .....

1) Paid for training (PFT)

2) Concessions for growth

and .....

3) the RJDC!!!!!!

 

[EagleRJ]

Looks like the Rwy 28 localizer antenna bought the farm again.

Wasn't it destroyed a few years back by a cargo plane when the same thing happened? It took the airport quite a while to get it rebuilt and certified. That's going to cut the arrival rate quite a bit- looks like another winter of long EDCT times for Cleveland again. At least no one was hurt...

 

[AWACoff]

Lake Effect snow does not exist when the body of water is frozen.

 

[hyperboy]

dorking out

Classic dorks showing off their knowledge of an equation that the crew should have been working on Short final or possibly even the flare. This is not rocket science. there are charts for everything....can you pass me your multiplication tables captain?

 

[wmuflyguy]

OK so you obviously paid attention in your physics classes up there at Western, but did you skip the spelling class or what?

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Feel better now?