airplane off runway in CLE

[CoATP]

You forgot .....

1) Paid for training (PFT)

2) Concessions for growth

and .....

3) the RJDC!!!!!!

have not heard the "Race to the Bottom" in a while. Has it been won?

 

[Ben Dover]

I guess SJS got that Southwest pilot at Midway too huh?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I guess SJS got that Southwest pilot at Midway too huh?

Sure it was! Except it was "Shamu Jet Syndrome"

 

[Shaheen]

You forgot .....

1) Paid for training (PFT)

2) Concessions for growth

and .....

3) the RJDC!!!!!!

So, the pilots of SWA who ran off at the end at MDW had same qualifications and reasons?

 

[Toecutter]

just to save someone else some research. Rwy 28 is 6017ft and the weather at the time of arrival was

[FONT=Monospace,Courier]KCLE 181956Z 30016KT 1/4SM +SN BKN006 BKN015 OVC041 M07/M11 A3001 RMK AO2 P0000 $[/FONT]

[FONT=Monospace,Courier]But it just started snowing 20 min before that with light snow according to the metars. [/FONT]

1/4 mile vis? Does anyone have any charts handy? What are the mins to shoot the approach? 6000 ft is kind of short to be a CAT 2/3 runway. Also, does the 170 have autobrakes/autoland? Just wondering.

 

[EMBPILOT1]

You forgot .....

1) Paid for training (PFT)

2) Concessions for growth

and .....

3) the RJDC!!!!!!

And I guess all the major airline pilots that have had accidents suffer from the same things. Could happen to anyone on any given day my friend.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

1/4 mile vis? Does anyone have any charts handy? What are the mins to shoot the approach? 6000 ft is kind of short to be a CAT 2/3 runway. Also, does the 170 have autobrakes/autoland? Just wondering.

METARs do not equal what reports the crew had from the tower or ATIS.

 

[AMANSWORLD]

METARs do not equal what reports the crew had from the tower or ATIS.

ATIS is always overriding factor. Until it has been changed that is what is legal to the FAA and NTSB. The rest is hearsay.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

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[EMBPILOT1]

ATIS means nothing if the controller gives something different. If you are on final and ATIS say vis is 1/4 mile or 1400 RVR, then ATC comes on and says that vis is up to 1/2 or 1800, then you use what ATC says. These guys probably got an update from the tower on the vis while on approach.