Air Wisconsin

[flyu27]

I was called the other day for an interview at AWAC. Just wondering what the current hiring trend is and how long rsv is running. Any help is appreciated.

 

[zawillif]

Just had a thread on this last week. Do a search.

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1087356#post1087356

 

[CaptETWes]

I was called the other day for an interview at AWAC. Just wondering what the current hiring trend is and how long rsv is running. Any help is appreciated.

The hiring trend is a trickle now. No more than 2 classes a month with 4-6 people per class (per a captain I recently flew with who just did recurrent). 11 pilots have left this month so far so the hiring is still attrition-based. Reserve is several months; august is month 3 for me. A line is coming my way in October, though. It may be shorter for some classes because there wasn't another class after mine for 3 months.

Depending on who you ask, you'll typically get these responses. Things could quickly get better (from an upgrade standpoint at least) if we are asked to fly for Midwest. Things could get even better from a money standpoint if the old contract is reinstated (over $40/hr second yr FO, plus even better rigs...I've heard). However, if both of those things pass us by then you could see a high number resignations from the more senior guys. In my perspective, either way you look at it from a new FO and upgrade point of view, things may pick up in the next few months...rapidly. Moral of the story is if AWAC is where you want to go, I think now is the best time to get on.

Midwest will announce their decision no later than the end of Sept. The arbitrator can take as long as he wants basically. So...just like in PHL, we must wait.

Regardless, best of luck.

 

[Capt. JD]

Awac

Are they only hiring with 121 turbine experence? I got an ATP, 2472tt, 2357 PIC, 765 Multi, 154 Actual... but no turbine yet. What the best way to apply? I faxed & mailed my resume in.... Is hiring happening at mins? I am flying for a charter & freight company in WI but I am from New Jersey so PHL would be great for me...

 

[wheelsup]

Midwest will announce their decision no later than the end of Sept. The arbitrator can take as long as he wants basically. So...just like in PHL, we must wait.

I'm not sure about that. I believe it was stated they had something like 3 months to decide, and that put the decision sometime around september/octoberish. Check out the posts on the air willy forum regarding the updates for specifics.

 

[DirkkDiggler]

Are they only hiring with 121 turbine experence? I got an ATP, 2472tt, 2357 PIC, 765 Multi, 154 Actual... but no turbine yet. What the best way to apply? I faxed & mailed my resume in.... Is hiring happening at mins? I am flying for a charter & freight company in WI but I am from New Jersey so PHL would be great for me...

You shouldn't need turbine time, but obviously I think it helps. You should be fine.

 

[miles otoole]

Are they only hiring with 121 turbine experence? I got an ATP, 2472tt, 2357 PIC, 765 Multi, 154 Actual... but no turbine yet. What the best way to apply? I faxed & mailed my resume in.... Is hiring happening at mins? I am flying for a charter & freight company in WI but I am from New Jersey so PHL would be great for me...

Also look at XJT as they are obviously EWR and IAH based. They are a good bet as well to win the Midwest contract which should help keep their upgrade running around 2.5-3 years. One of the better contracts in the regional industry, from what I understand. Either way, good luck.

 

[CaptETWes]

I'm not sure about that. I believe it was stated they had something like 3 months to decide, and that put the decision sometime around september/octoberish. Check out the posts on the air willy forum regarding the updates for specifics.

It's symantics really, however, if you add 3 months to the end of June when the RFP was due and submitted by AWAC, et al, then you have the end of September.

 

[crashpad]

Skyways had a flowthrough with Midwest. Too bad for those looking to get on after years of service. Good news for all the boys and girls at AWAC. Looks like you hit paydirt! YEEHAW!!!

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Anyone want to start a pool on when AWAC management will come to the MEC and tell us "you need to drop the grievance and accept a B (C) scale so we can lock up this flying."? I say 1 1/2 to 2 weeks max.

And of course we know what the response will be.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[crashpad]

Yes, AWAC management is going to be sending this request to the entire pilot group in a few days.

Try and look at the 'Big Picture'. They have to show Midwest their AWAC pilot group is trained to serve, obey and work with the company, not against it.
With the exception of the concession, this is a done deal.

The worst thing the AWAC pilots could do at this juncture is rock the boat or give the slightest inkling to Midwest they are unwilling to cooperate with their management. Remember, Midwest is 'looking at you' as their future B717 staff. That means; Bigger Plane, Better Schedule, Better Pay, Better Job Security, Better Life.


Take whatever they offer and understand you are looking at the 'Big Picture' and investing in your families future. Don't risk losing it by playing petty games because of a few loud mouthed malcontents among every pilot group.

This is a small sacrifice to secure a dream job.

Again, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

 

[CaptETWes]

Yes, AWAC management is going to be sending this request to the entire pilot group in a few days.

Try and look at the 'Big Picture'. They have to show Midwest their AWAC pilot group is trained to serve, obey and work with the company, not against it.
With the exception of the concession, this is a done deal.

The worst thing the AWAC pilots could do at this juncture is rock the boat or give the slightest inkling to Midwest they are unwilling to cooperate with their management. Remember, Midwest is 'looking at you' as their future B717 staff. That means; Bigger Plane, Better Schedule, Better Pay, Better Job Security, Better Life.


Take whatever they offer and understand you are looking at the 'Big Picture' and investing in your families future. Don't risk losing it by playing petty games because of a few loud mouthed malcontents among every pilot group.

This is a small sacrifice to secure a dream job.

Again, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

you, sir, are endorsing exactly what the AWAC pilot group sacrificed in hopes of keeping United flying a few years back. we have been burned once and in too recent memory for it to foolishly happen again. furthermore, the previous concessions weren't even for our "dream job" as you put it, but for merely job security. if you know anything about the history of this company and pilot group, you should know that AWAC management can afford to pay us at the current rates and perhaps then some. i seriously reject your suggestion that we drop the arbitration and then turn around concede pay cuts. IF the pilot group were to consider concessions, the ink would have to dry on the Midwest contract before talks would begin.

what's that i smell...something's burning!...oh, yeah, flamebait...

if i didn't know any better, i'd say based on your post that you are Mesa or Go-Jets...or someone that got the AWAC rejection letter.

 

[Victor Meldrew]

you, sir, are endorsing exactly what the AWAC pilot group sacrificed in hopes of keeping United flying a few years back. we have been burned once and in too recent memory for it to foolishly happen again. furthermore, the previous concessions weren't even for our "dream job" as you put it, but for merely job security. if you know anything about the history of this company and pilot group, you should know that AWAC management can afford to pay us at the current rates and perhaps then some. i seriously reject your suggestion that we drop the arbitration and then turn around concede pay cuts. IF the pilot group were to consider concessions, the ink would have to dry on the Midwest contract before talks would begin.

what's that i smell...something's burning!...oh, yeah, flamebait...

if i didn't know any better, i'd say based on your post that you are Mesa or Go-Jets...or someone that got the AWAC rejection letter.

CaptEtWes, careful, very careful, Crashpad was a long term member of the AWAC team who moved on to better and bigger things a short time back. I don't believe that you have been here that long so he is more than up on how this pilot group got treated over the years.

Peace.

 

[JohnyChimpo22]

I will say it then. Crashpad, you suck! I hope you don't spread that give concessions bs at your new airline. Remember, you are their future A380 crew. ******************** head

 

[JohnyChimpo22]

Victor Mildew, if you agree with Crashpad, I don't think you have been here long enough to know what this pilot group as gone through.

 

[Victor Meldrew]

Victor Mildew, if you agree with Crashpad, I don't think you have been here long enough to know what this pilot group as gone through.

I was just saying to CaptETWes to be careful how he throws insults about and I have been here longer than I really care to remember right now.

Personally I will NOT take any forms of concessions, I will not finance this airline from my pocket anymore so they can make more money than they already are of the backs of the pilot group (or other groups for that matter). If we stay as a 70 aircraft 50 seat operator making relativly decent money and condidtions compared to other regionals then so be it.

 

[crashpad]

CaptanETwes is right, I worked at Mesa too. Ahhh, the mammeries....
Pardon my being the antagonist, this happens occasionally when I mix the little brown beans with the Breyers.
Anyway, my point is: try to be magnanomous with the Amigos when they give their next performance. I don't expect you to give up anything without an iron clad warranty this time, or waive the current lawsuit. That's a matter for the courts and your case is pretty solid from what I've read. What I do expect is another attempt to divide your pilot group down the middle. You must exhibit uniform solidarity this time, and I believe you will.

I like JohnyChimpo... he speaks his mind and his username is the shizzle!

This message board is like a forum for the All Star Wrestlers of the airline industry, and who doesn't enjoy a good 'clothesline off the turnbuckle'?

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

so crash...are you saying that AWAC pilots are the future 717 drivers for YX? That takes a lot of nerve.

 

[wheelsup]

so crash...are you saying that AWAC pilots are the future 717 drivers for YX? That takes a lot of nerve.

he would be what one would call a "troll"

I don't think anyone at awac is nieve enough to actually *believe* that..

 

[EX_CV580FR8Dawg]

One would hope so.... taakes a lot of nerve to say that. I know the window is opening up to us soon at syx and from what it sounds like it will only be open to us for hte next few classes and then mixed classes from then on. Nothing set in stone of course.

 

[WickedPissa]

I was called the other day for an interview at AWAC. Just wondering what the current hiring trend is and how long rsv is running. Any help is appreciated.

Why would somebody with less than 1800 hours be picky about getting hired with AWAC and worried about reserve? Prima donna

My new and first motto.....I am disgusted

 

[WickedPissa]

I just called this guy a prima donna without knowing exactly what one was. After some geeky looking, you are a female operatic star.

 

[Whataboutbob]

Does anyone know the name of the person that recieves the Cover Letters and Resumes? thanks in advance.

Any word on future class dates and size?

 

[BoilerUP]

Either Sarah Peterson or Capt. Pat Doyle, not sure 100% who sees them...I'd reckon both. probably.

Future classes & sizes? Not 100% sure, but attrition has slowed quite a bit the last couple months but we still continue to hire 4-8 at a time, every 2 weeks. Gotta be SOME reason for that, I suppose...but will not speculate.

 

[Rottweiller]

Either Sarah Peterson or Capt. Pat Doyle, not sure 100% who sees them...I'd reckon both. probably.

Future classes & sizes? Not 100% sure, but attrition has slowed quite a bit the last couple months but we still continue to hire 4-8 at a time, every 2 weeks. Gotta be SOME reason for that, I suppose...but will not speculate.

Doesn't matter who you send it to it all gets passed along to SARAH PETERSON, EMPLOYEE RELATIONS.

 

[mynameisjim]

Sara...