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I guess I am just confused about what the regionals want, see I thought it was quality time rather than quantity. But if they want to hire a cfi with 1500 hrs and no real world experience then ha by all means, I just think there should be a little more consideration and everything shouldn't be so black and white. Let me explain my time and why I have it, I guarantee they wouldn't think bad of it. Just my thought
 
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idratherfly4283 said:
Go ahead and toss it, I earned it fair and square with hard work, I would say to you you are missing out on a good pilot

ok, I'm bored and I'll bite. Interviewer asks, tell me about your 60 hours of Turbine PIC time. Lets hear your response Young Jedi.
 
Don't worry about it. Apply anywhere and everywhere, and if you get called to an interview, be prepared to defend your logbook and your experiences. Hopefully, you won't need to - many airlines will see your times and ask you about it, but don't be defensive. Explain to them your varied work experiences *and what you learned about flying from them* and I'm sure you'll be fine. I've seen great pilots completely fark up interviews because of nerves, so be yourself, be honest, and you'll be alright.

BTW - I knew a guy flying skydivers in a C-90 and another guy in a twotter at age 22 with under 1000 TT...just because it may not be "normal" doesn't mean it isn't possible.
 
Lequip said:
ok, I'm bored and I'll bite. Interviewer asks, tell me about your 60 hours of Turbine PIC time. Lets hear your response Young Jedi.

Perhaps he got to fly a King Air 90 with the owner, and the owner stuck him in the left seat and let him fly it. Since he is rated in catagory, class, and type if required (which it isn't), then he can log PIC time for all the time he is flying the airplane. Insurance requires the owner to be there, but that isn't the FAAs concern.

Two of my friends who used to work at our old flight school got a few dozen hours of King Air 90 time this way. Both are now at airlines.
 
FYI: It's already been established that Lequip is a douchebag on several other threads.
What this turd says on here can pretty much be completely excluded from your field of vision. Much like when you dodge dog sh!t on a stroll through the park.


Apply several places. Walk it in when you are able to. Face to face is priceless. Also, be personable in your Cover Letter. Take the time to write an individual one for each company, they know a form letter when they see one, wether it's a LOR or a Cover letter.

T-Hawk
 
Quality vs. Quantity

idratherfly4283 said:
I guess I am just confused about what the regionals want, see I thought it was quality time rather than quantity. But if they want to hire a cfi with 1500 hrs and no real world experience then ha by all means, I just think there should be a little more consideration and everything shouldn't be so black and white. Let me explain my time and why I have it, I guarantee they wouldn't think bad of it. Just my thought

Read the man's A/c experience...BE-350...at least read the Info before you come up with the Hypothetical!

It all comes out in the SIM eval! TRUST ME!

We at PSA, do read between the lines, It's not all black and white!
I said Quality in a PM...If you can fly the sim, I could care less if you have 10K hours!
Good Luck,
PSACPSP
 
Id definately say dont give up. I was hired by Mesaba in January after just turning 22 with 1100tt

Most of my time was CFII work and some MEI time with about 200 hours of DNR fire spotting time.

Do you have a degree?

Keep updating. Mesaba is poised for some positive movement. Theres a good chance you'll fly the CRJ if you are hired now.

Good luck!
 
idratherfly-

where are all the places (121 and 135) you have applied to and if all of them offered jobs, how would you rank them and why.... i'm interested in what younger people in the industry consider the "better" places to work. you can PM me the info if you don't want people to flame you (which they will, no matter what you say)
 
IRF,

Congratulations on such an early start to your career. You've recieved some excellent advice here; the best company is the first one that hires you.

As to your 135 vs. 121 dilema, perhaps I may be of some assistance. (Reference my profile) I did the 135 thing for almost 7 years. It was a great experience I wouldn't trade for anything. Flying around in the clouds by yourself at 3 AM with the boxes will teach you a ton about flying. So will the 14th hour of duty, flying the 10th hour of flight time in some ancient round-dial turbojet shooting a non-radar VOR/DME approach into some Central American airport. That having been said, you'll have little control over your life and will be a slave to the pager. (No 15 hour reserve callout window, they own your butt 24/7.) Some folks are able to do this indefinitely, my limit was 66 months, after that I took a HUGE pay cut to downgrade to the right seat of a WSCOD, and have been 100% delighted with my choice.

The 121 flying is great too. You sleep at night and fly during the day, not to mention you have some control over your life. (At a 135 company, you may be the only meat in the seat left. if that happens, you're doin' the flight.) If you find a position at one of the more reputable carriers at your age, you could have a great career. You will also learn quite a bit about aviation flying 90 hours a month in a modern, automated RJ with a nice standardized crewforce and excellent training. SF & FSI do a good job for the charter folks, but the 121 initial (Depending on who hires you) is usually much better.

A lot depends on your long term goals. Keep in mind the move from 135 to 121 is a little easier than the reverse. (Some in the charter industry have a big "us vs. them" chip on their shoulder, the same holds true for some part 91 operators.)

One last piece of advice. There are, on both sides of the coin, some scumbag bottom-feeding operators. Do some research, ask around, find out who those folks might be, and do not work at those places. You want to grow old with your certificates in your pocket.

Good Luck! let me know if I can help.

PS- It's the journey, not the destination.;)
 
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I think I know the answer to my delima, I have always been the type to work hard and reap the rewards. I think those who put there time in, gain the most. It does not matter if you are cfi'ing, or a freight dog, whatever it is, if it makes you happy, do it. At the end of the day I am just looking to put food on the plate. I work to live, not live to work... and with that said I hope what is meant to happen, happens.
 
I'm impressed. a BE350 type rating at 1000hrs. This a/c requires a type, and pic cannot be logged without the type.

With that type rating you should be able to open a few 121 doors.
 
C90's don't require a type unless they are over 12,5 do they?

If interviewing, I would be curious as well. But, he has an explanation.

I had Caravan PIC before I had 400 hours and an instrument rating, but in reality all I had was a little time in the left seat. The owner of the airplane was never too far away to lose sight of the ITT indication.

ASA is short on FO's. I'm sure they would consider him favorably.
 
relax idrather...i would guess he didn't carefully read your profile. the "pic" time in question is probably in the C-90. it doesn't matter anyway, you aren't going to get a job because of few hours of time in a plane unless you are applying for a job flying that specific model. i'm sure anyone with half a brain can tell that you were flying, legally logging pic, but if that the sheit hit the fan you wouldn't have touched anything except the mic button.
 
OK, hijack...


Which airlines will hire pilots under the age of 21? Specifically, 20 years old, assuming 1000 hours total time, 300 multi, 200 hours turbine with a type rating?
 
I'm about the same age as you are. I'm at PCL and waiting to turn 23 and get my PIC time up to mins to upgrade.
 

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