Age 70 being discussed

[Abernathy]

Maybe we should let Approach Controllers do the job into their 70s and 80s. What could happen?

 

[whymeworry?]

The old guys need lots of naps every flight. Take that away and they will leave in droves. Time to bring video cameras into the cockpit.

 

[pilotyip]

Maybe we should let Approach Controllers do the job into their 70s and 80s. What could happen?

Only if pilot can do the same, there has to be a level playing field and fairness.

The old guys need lots of naps every flight. Take that away and they will leave in droves. Time to bring video cameras into the cockpit.

Never trust someone who does not nap and flies at night. Including 30 years old like me back then. My first trip after IOE, 1978 TransAmerican L-188 F/O coming out of the Emery sort at KDAY at 0200. We level off and the CA looks at me and says, "Why don't you kick back and get some rest" I answered "Oh no sir, my job to be fully alert to the safety of flight at all times" (or something stupid like that). He looks at his feet and shakes his head and says "You new guys drive me nuts, you know I am gunna catch some rest on the next leg, and I won't rest well if I think you might not be alert" "If I am not rested I am a grumpy son-of -a-bitch, and you don't want to be around me when I am grumpy" "Now about about you get some rest" I pretented to rest, I was too excited about being an alirline pilot. That did not last long, the not resting part. There is no way anyone who lives on their days off on a 7AM to 11PM wake cycle with their family, can now pick up three night of 11PM to 7AM flying and not be exhausted.

 

[tomgoodman]

Never trust someone who does not nap and flies at night.

Remember the "eyebrow windows" on the 727? One Captain explained (as he reclined his seat), that they were actually "meteor scanning portholes", and that he would stand the first watch.

 

[pilotyip]

Remember the "eyebrow windows" on the 727? One Captain explained (as he reclined his seat), that they were actually "meteor scanning portholes", and that he would stand the first watch.

that is a great one, should be a classic

 

[ATRCA]

Can it be tested for?, does it set in earlier on some than others? In all cases, is a 60 year old safer than a 70 year old? How about we make retirement age the age of the youngest pilot to experience incapacitation in the cockpit. Wham a 47 year has a heart attack in the cockpit, new retirement age 47

I read that the new age 70 law will require that all pilots over 65 have a Bachelor's degree from a real college or university....

oops...

 

[pilotyip]

I read that the new age 70 law will require that all pilots over 65 have a Bachelor's degree from a real college or university....

oops...

Are you telling me Michigan State University is not a real school? or that Central Michigan University where I got my MA is not a real school? But I turned 68 today so they better hurry up this change to age 70,

 

[rettofly]

Are you telling me Michigan State University is not a real school? or that Central Michigan University where I got my MA is not a real school? But I turned 68 today so they better hurry up this change to age 70,

Happy Birthday, Yip.

I retired last year in March, 2 weeks after my 68th birthday. Last trip was KTRM to KOAK, nice 1.4 hr jaunt in good weather. Cheap bastards didn't even have the fire hose arch! :angryfire

 

[pilotyip]

Happy Birthday, Yip. :angryfire

thanks

 

[aircombat]

I guess retirement can't force you guys to get a life. If you want to die in a cockpit go to part 135.

 

[zonejumper]

The disrespect shown for the elders on here is not only sad, it's mind-boggling. If you boys think you're funny or cool--think again. You're only proving the point many of us make which is you are a bunch of spoiled a$$holes with an astonishing sense of entitlement and self-worth. I truly hope your parents are treated the same way by their co-workers or people in their industry. I imagine those of you with kids (shudder) are raising their offspring with the same "values" you have.

 

[pilotyip]

I am Part 135, love it

I guess retirement can't force you guys to get a life. If you want to die in a cockpit go to part 135.

It is still fantastic to get in the DA-20 and push those power levers up. But I am pretty sure I will die of something else before I die in a DA-20 crash. The DA-20 in 135 has a pretty good safety record, why Grand Air crashed 5 of them before the killed anyone.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

The disrespect shown for the elders on here is not only sad, it's mind-boggling. If you boys think you're funny or cool--think again. You're only proving the point many of us make which is you are a bunch of spoiled a$$holes with an astonishing sense of entitlement and self-worth. I truly hope your parents are treated the same way by their co-workers or people in their industry. I imagine those of you with kids (shudder) are raising their offspring with the same "values" you have.

So much I could say in response to your post that I don't even think I have the time. Maybe when I get to the overnight.

 

[Fubijaakr]

The disrespect shown for the elders on here is not only sad, it's mind-boggling. If you boys think you're funny or cool--think again. You're only proving the point many of us make which is you are a bunch of spoiled a$$holes with an astonishing sense of entitlement and self-worth. I truly hope your parents are treated the same way by their co-workers or people in their industry. I imagine those of you with kids (shudder) are raising their offspring with the same "values" you have.

+1....:beer:

 

[zonejumper]

So much I could say in response to your post that I don't even think I have the time. Maybe when I get to the overnight.

Knock yourself out, Ace.....

 

[rod farva]

Yip, are you really 68? I think I feel someone pulling my chain.

 

[flyboyike]

The disrespect shown for the elders on here is not only sad, it's mind-boggling. If you boys think you're funny or cool--think again. You're only proving the point many of us make which is you are a bunch of spoiled a$$holes with an astonishing sense of entitlement and self-worth. I truly hope your parents are treated the same way by their co-workers or people in their industry. I imagine those of you with kids (shudder) are raising their offspring with the same "values" you have.

Getting old doesn't entitle you to respect. It entitles you to a social security check and a Medicare card. That is all.

 

[pilotyip]

nor does youth

Getting old doesn't entitle you to respect. It entitles you to a social security check and a Medicare card. That is all.

nor does youth entitle you to respect. Respect is earned by a variety of ways. BTW Getting old is the best thing that can happen to you, the other alternative is, well you now the rest. All I can say is it has been one fantastic adventure almost everyone of my childhood dreams have been fulfilled. I look back and can not believe what I have had a chance to experience in my life. The lives I have touched, the people I have helped, the people I have mentored and it was great. I made a difference.

Yip, are you really 68? I think I feel someone pulling my chain.

The day I was born Italy surrendered, they knew it was all over with me on the scene

 

[Fubijaakr]

Getting old doesn't entitle you to respect in America. It entitles you to a social security check and a Medicare card. That is all.

Fixed it for you. In the rest of the civilized world, cultures respect and revere their elders.

Only in America where we're in love with youth does the "young entitlement" assumption rear its ugly head.

 

[flyboyike]

Fixed it for you. In the rest of the civilized world, cultures respect and revere their elders.

I guess nobody told the kids in Tahrir Square, who sent the octogenarian Mobarak and his decrepit ilk packing.