Age 65 Revolution devours it's own.....

iflyhigh

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Crap I wish they would of gotten rid of this guy a year earlier.

Maybe than I would not be furloughed. (Dobut it though)
 

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It used to be "eat the rich", I think the way things are going nowadays, with the greedy old farts everywhere, it'll be "eat the old".
 

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While i'm not a big fan of Mr. Stevens he did get it right with respect to age 65 in my opinion. If you want to retire at 60 do it. Those of us who are healthy and want to continue flying shouldn't arbitrarily be told we have to quit at a certain point for no good reason. I'm a younger guy by the way so i'm not really all that affected by the change.
 

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want to continue flying shouldn't arbitrarily be told we have to quit at a certain point for no good reason.
The law arbitrarily requires that you retire at the certain point of age 65.
 

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Convicted on felony charges and only narrowly loses. After this and Palin I'm convinced Alaska is full of dumb people.
 

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I had the privilege of flying with a super nice gentleman who was retired at 60 and was fortunate to get hired at this little supplemental a couple years later as a captain.

He was in phenomenal physical shape. But in the cockpit, you could clearly see the signs of aging/slowing down. The man should have been a poster boy for maintaining age 60 rule. Frankly, flying with this captain, while fun enroute, required excessive amount of babysitting from the right seat.

I'm sorry, but we're not captains in the right seat, and doubling or tripling our work load because your marbles aren't spinning fast enough anymore is not exactly contributing to safety - quite the opposite, it's dangerous.

I stand by what I've been saying all along - for every one pilot over 60 that is truly good to go, there are at least 4 or so that should hang up their headsets.
 
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I had the privilege of flying with a super nice gentleman who was retired at 60 and was fortunate to get hired at this little supplemental a couple years later as a captain.

He was in phenomenal physical shape. But in the cockpit, you could clearly see the signs of aging/slowing down. The man should have been a poster boy for maintaining age 60 rule. Frankly, flying with this captain, while fun enroute, required excessive amount of babysitting from the right seat.

I'm sorry, but we're not captains in the right seat, and doubling or tripling our work load because your marbles aren't spinning fast enough anymore is not exactly contributing to safety - quite the opposite, it's dangerous.

I stand by what I've been saying all along - for every one pilot over 60 that is truly good to go, there are at least 4 or so that should hang up their headsets.
I buy most of this post, but will disagree with the 4 to 1 statement. My observation makes it about 1 to 1. I flew copilot across the pond (on the L 1011) with the "old guys'. I found that about half of them were really losing their edge. You, as a copilot, had to be real sharp to make them believe that what you wanted to do was their idea. BTW, I quit at 57, and glad I did. I realized that was getting a bit of extra "help".
 

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While i'm not a big fan of Mr. Stevens he did get it right with respect to age 65 in my opinion. If you want to retire at 60 do it. Those of us who are healthy and want to continue flying shouldn't arbitrarily be told we have to quit at a certain point for no good reason. I'm a younger guy by the way so i'm not really all that affected by the change.

Yes you are. All of us under every 60 and older guy on a seniority list is affected no matter what age you are.
 

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Convicted on felony charges and only narrowly loses. After this and Palin I'm convinced Alaska is full of dumb people.
Mayor Marion Barry snorts cocaine off a hooker's jumblies and is caught by the FBI on tape, gets convicted, and spends 6 moths in jail....result....re-elected.
Rep. William Jefferson caught on tape by the FBI accepting a bribe, has $90,000 in his freezer (cause that's where everybody keeps $90,000), and is federally indicted...result....re-elected.
Sen. Barney Frank runs a male prostitution ring out of his apartment and plays dumb about it....result...no charges...still in office.
Gov. Elliott Spitzer visits a hooker (at least she was hot) using State money to pay her. Result...no charges.
Sen. John Edwards preaches about marriage and claims to be a family man, meanwhile he is having at least one affair. He denies it until it is finally proven. Then he wants to be left alone to be with his family and claims the media is out to get him.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson preaches morality yet has an affair that results in a "love child". Then uses donations to the "Rainbow/Push Coalition" (a non-profit organization) to pay the woman off and pay her child support....result....more media coverage and donations.
Gov. Jim McGreevey has an affair with a man who he appointed as his homeland security advisor (who wasn't an American citizen, with little to no experience or qualifications). When the truth comes out, he denies any favors to his lover. Result...no charges.

Yeah, you're right. It's Alaska that is full of dumb people.
 
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While i'm not a big fan of Mr. Stevens he did get it right with respect to age 65 in my opinion. If you want to retire at 60 do it. Those of us who are healthy and want to continue flying shouldn't arbitrarily be told we have to quit at a certain point for no good reason. I'm a younger guy by the way so i'm not really all that affected by the change.
Great post! Those who want to stay can and those who want to leave can. Age 60 was blatant discrimination and if it wasn't for the great Prater and Sen Stevens recognizing this injustice we would still be stuck in the stone ages.

I tip my hat to these brave gentleman!
 

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A start.

Seriously, if someone has a problem with a pilot of any age and stays silent, they are an accomplice to whatever tragedy occurs (and that's what you're solely concerned with- safety, right?).
 

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Professional FO Instructordude.
Maybe you need to go back to school.

Age 65 is just as arbitrary as Age 60.



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1. Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle: stopped at the first motel we passed, an arbitrary choice.
2. Based on or subject to individual judgment or preference: The diet imposes overall calorie limits, but daily menus are arbitrary.
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Mayor Marion Barry snorts cocaine off a hooker's jumblies and is caught by the FBI on tape, gets convicted, and spends 6 moths in jail....result....re-elected.
Rep. William Jefferson caught on tape by the FBI accepting a bribe, has $90,000 in his freezer (cause that's where everybody keeps $90,000), and is federally indicted...result....re-elected.
Sen. Barney Frank runs a male prostitution ring out of his apartment and plays dumb about it....result...no charges...still in office.
Gov. Elliott Spitzer visits a hooker (at least she was hot) using State money to pay her. Result...no charges.
Sen. John Edwards preaches about marriage and claims to be a family man, meanwhile he is having at least one affair. He denies it until it is finally proven. Then he wants to be left alone to be with his family and claims the media is out to get him.
The Rev. Jesse Jackson preaches morality yet has an affair that results in a "love child". Then uses donations to the "Rainbow/Push Coalition" (a non-profit organization) to pay the woman off and pay her child support....result....more media coverage and donations.
Gov. Jim McGreevey has an affair with a man who he appointed as his homeland security advisor (who wasn't an American citizen, with little to no experience or qualifications). When the truth comes out, he denies any favors to his lover. Result...no charges.

Yeah, you're right. It's Alaska that is full of dumb people.
Sure I could have mentioned those and a few more but was staying on topic.

Bottom line - this world is overloaded with stupid people.
 

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Many guys and gals that are furloughed right now wouldn't have been had the Age 60 rule had stayed in place!
 

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So what is Age 65?
Age 65 is also discrimination. We need to get rid of any mandatory age: If you can pass the physical and the check-rides you should be able to keep flying. Why not? Isn't age 65 just as arbitrary as age 60? Yes,, of course. So there you are, let’s be fair and get rid of age-65 in favor of no age.
 

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A start.

Seriously, if someone has a problem with a pilot of any age and stays silent, they are an accomplice to whatever tragedy occurs (and that's what you're solely concerned with- safety, right?).
Very true.
 
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