Age 65 2007

[thor2j]

If the guy in the right seat must be under 60 with a Capt over 60, then shouldn't the guys in the right seat be entitled to a percentage of the Capts. pay? I mean if it wans't for the F/O the Capt couldn't be PIC.

New Bill!!!

Let them fly over 60 but I want 50% of his pay plus mine!!!!

 

[Andy]

In the 110th Congress, leadership of all committees have changed.
Sen Inouye is the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
Sen Rockefeller is the Chairman of the Senate Aviation Subcommittee.


Here are their comments on S 65:
ADDITIONAL VIEWS OF SENATORS INOUYE, ROCKEFELLER, DORGAN, CANTWELL, LAUTENBERG, AND PRYOR

• On July 19, 2005, the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation held a hearing to examine the FAA's Age 60 rule which raised a number of concerns about moving forward on legislation to alter existing FAA regulations that prohibit a pilot from engaging in Part 121 operations if the pilot has reached his or her 60th birthday.

• On November 17, 2005, the Committee approved the bill by voice vote in Executive Session. Despite this action we continue to have serious concerns regarding the repeal of the Age 60 rule (14 CFR 121.383(c)). Any changes to this long-standing safety regulation should be approached cautiously to ensure that any potential risk is minimized and commercial flight remains consistent with existing safety parameters. Congress provided the FAA air safety regulatory authority for U.S., which the agency has consistently exercised in an impartial manner to ensure that the safety of the nation's air transportation system is its primary mission. As noted in the agency's testimony at the hearing, the FAA can not assure Congress that changing the Age 60 rule will maintain or raise the current level of safety. In fact, their most recent empirical studies completed in 2004 continue to indicate that there appears to be a relationship between pilot age and accident rate.

• Over the past 45 years, the FAA has thoroughly and comprehensively reviewed its findings on the Age 60 rule on numerous occasions. They continue to believe that the Age 60 rule remains the best determination that can be made of a time when a general decline in health-related functions and overall cognitive capabilities have reached a level where decrements in a pilot's performance may jeopardize safety. In addition, several U.S. Courts of Appeals have reviewed the Age 60 rule and studies related to the rule, and have uniformly denied petitioners' challenges.

• The bill would effectively delegate U.S. safety decisions to an international body, despite the fact that the FAA has long been considered the world leader in aviation safety. In fact, the FAA has never delegated the discharge of its safety responsibilities to an international organization. We also will need to look carefully at how physicals pre-age 60 and post-age 60 are performed. Many of the nations that currently allow pilots over the age of 60 to pilot for their commercial airlines have stricter recurring flight medical examinations than are currently conducted in the U.S. If Congress moves forward with legislation regarding the Age 60 rule, this matter must be adequately addressed prior to altering existing regulations.

 

[Phaedrus]

Who are UF and Klako?

 

[pipe]

Who are UF and Klako?

Couple of has-beens.

PIPE

 

[thor2j]

I thought UF was playing for the title Monday night!

 

[jbDC9]

Who are UF and Klako?

No joke... this thread is surprisingly quiet without those two blowhards flapping their yaps about this so called "discrimination". It's not about discrimination, it's about money. Duh.

 

[bravodude]

Hey Pipe,

I just sent my letter out. I think everybody who thinks this is absurd should send a letter.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Letter is in the mail. Repeal This Ridiculous Rule!! The Dems are going to want to make headway sometime this session. This a free bone to the Republicans and the Dems know that they'll parlet it into something meaniful for themselves.

ALPA doesn't mean squat to the Dems: too small and too Republican.

 

[Bringupthebird]

No joke... this thread is surprisingly quiet without those two blowhards flapping their yaps about this so called "discrimination". It's not about discrimination, it's about money. Duh.

If it's all about money, why do so many want to keep doing a job that has lost 70% of it's value? Maybe it has something to do with being completely qualified one day and completely worthless the next. That pretty much sums up discrimination. Maybe it has to do with a rule that has little if any justification and even less so if it can't be updated to keep up with medical advances. Featherbedding can never be disguised as anything other than what it is. If there is a legitimate fear that pilots may die at the controls, then let's update the medical standards for all. If not, then let's allow for medical advances and permit pilots to fly for as long as they can hold a medical. If a 65 limit is one step on the way to that then so be it.

 

[Quack]

Have any of you ever flown with 59+ year old regional pilots on a consistent basis? Not everyone in this fight is a 777 captain at united or cal doing six flights a month. The regional guys are doing this in a day, in and out of the same weather system, airport delays, and ten minute quick turns. You can't tell me there isn't a level of safety that needs to be addressed in situations like this. However, if the rule changes these pilots are going to be out there on a daily basis like a time bomb ticking...