Age 65 2007

[walkthasky]

Well Sh*t, then ill sue too, when the age is 65, because im still being force to retire.

 

[80for80]

What about those of us WITH a pension and good pay that don't want to work till 65?

 

[skiandsurf]

The quick and easy fix to this, all Part 121 pilots that reach the age of 60, can elect to retire or move to the right (FO) seat. The upgrades will not be effected. The 60 year olds continue flying (earning a paycheck).

 

[FoxHunter]

What about those of us WITH a pension and good pay that don't want to work till 65?

Retire at age 60.

 

[Andy]

Foxhunter, that article has no direct quotes from the FAA. The only direct quotes are from Cottingham of APAAD and Hoot Gibson. EXTREME journalistic license.
If you're thinking that the rule's going to change before you retire, you will find yourself in the same situation as Klako and UF.

 

[TSA145]

Oh shut up.... those senior pilot didn't have pensions and retirements yanked from them... or lose up to 60-70% of their pay. This isn't about money, it's about discrimination. I for one completely support it.[/quote]

Then change the rule, but make it effective to those pilots getting their commercial certificate beggining on the date of the change.

 

[BoilerUP]

The quick and easy fix to this, all Part 121 pilots that reach the age of 60, can elect to retire or move to the right (FO) seat. The upgrades will not be effected. The 60 year olds continue flying (earning a paycheck).

I would not oppose a measure similar to this.

 

[FoxHunter]

Foxhunter, that article has no direct quotes from the FAA. The only direct quotes are from Cottingham of APAAD and Hoot Gibson. EXTREME journalistic license.
If you're thinking that the rule's going to change before you retire, you will find yourself in the same situation as Klako and UF.

Then you can relax.:beer:

 

[instructordude]

What about those of us WITH a pension and good pay that don't want to work till 65?

What about those off us without a pension and bad pay (Who cares) who want to fly jets past 65 just because it's fun?

 

[Andy]

Then you can relax.:beer:

I am relaxed.

So, who's going to be the House sponsor now that Gibbons is out?

 

[thor2j]

If the guy in the right seat must be under 60 with a Capt over 60, then shouldn't the guys in the right seat be entitled to a percentage of the Capts. pay? I mean if it wans't for the F/O the Capt couldn't be PIC.

New Bill!!!

Let them fly over 60 but I want 50% of his pay plus mine!!!!

 

[Andy]

In the 110th Congress, leadership of all committees have changed.
Sen Inouye is the Chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation.
Sen Rockefeller is the Chairman of the Senate Aviation Subcommittee.


Here are their comments on S 65:
ADDITIONAL VIEWS OF SENATORS INOUYE, ROCKEFELLER, DORGAN, CANTWELL, LAUTENBERG, AND PRYOR

• On July 19, 2005, the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation held a hearing to examine the FAA's Age 60 rule which raised a number of concerns about moving forward on legislation to alter existing FAA regulations that prohibit a pilot from engaging in Part 121 operations if the pilot has reached his or her 60th birthday.

• On November 17, 2005, the Committee approved the bill by voice vote in Executive Session. Despite this action we continue to have serious concerns regarding the repeal of the Age 60 rule (14 CFR 121.383(c)). Any changes to this long-standing safety regulation should be approached cautiously to ensure that any potential risk is minimized and commercial flight remains consistent with existing safety parameters. Congress provided the FAA air safety regulatory authority for U.S., which the agency has consistently exercised in an impartial manner to ensure that the safety of the nation's air transportation system is its primary mission. As noted in the agency's testimony at the hearing, the FAA can not assure Congress that changing the Age 60 rule will maintain or raise the current level of safety. In fact, their most recent empirical studies completed in 2004 continue to indicate that there appears to be a relationship between pilot age and accident rate.

• Over the past 45 years, the FAA has thoroughly and comprehensively reviewed its findings on the Age 60 rule on numerous occasions. They continue to believe that the Age 60 rule remains the best determination that can be made of a time when a general decline in health-related functions and overall cognitive capabilities have reached a level where decrements in a pilot's performance may jeopardize safety. In addition, several U.S. Courts of Appeals have reviewed the Age 60 rule and studies related to the rule, and have uniformly denied petitioners' challenges.

• The bill would effectively delegate U.S. safety decisions to an international body, despite the fact that the FAA has long been considered the world leader in aviation safety. In fact, the FAA has never delegated the discharge of its safety responsibilities to an international organization. We also will need to look carefully at how physicals pre-age 60 and post-age 60 are performed. Many of the nations that currently allow pilots over the age of 60 to pilot for their commercial airlines have stricter recurring flight medical examinations than are currently conducted in the U.S. If Congress moves forward with legislation regarding the Age 60 rule, this matter must be adequately addressed prior to altering existing regulations.

 

[Phaedrus]

Who are UF and Klako?

 

[pipe]

Who are UF and Klako?

Couple of has-beens.

PIPE

 

[thor2j]

I thought UF was playing for the title Monday night!