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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Airport Performance
(dry, level, hard-surfaced runway with zero wind)
[/font][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Takeoff (SL, ISA, MTOW) 3,420 ft (1,042 m)
Landing (SL, ISA, MLW) 3,050 ft (930 m)
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Those are max takeoff and landing weights. It doesn't appear they were at max weights, so those numbers would be a bit lower.
 
English said:
Those are max takeoff and landing weights. It doesn't appear they were at max weights, so those numbers would be a bit lower.
Yea, but they're also for a company test pilot who is (presumably) on top of his game. Doesn't sound like this pair fit into that category.
 
Here's the ANN report with a little more info... almost sounds like he truly did restart the engines and try to power it out... anyone ever hear of a floatplane conversion for the citations?! If you read the article, it was moving noticeably enough to were police called for an evacuation of the homes on the shore it was headed toward.....

http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlockID=12e9d2ad-42f2-4f5f-ba3f-02a3c143082e&




Business Jet Ends Up In Atlantic City Bay

Mon, 16 May '05

May Jeopardize Future of Bader Field

A small business jet attempting to land at Bader Field Airport (KAIY) went into the bay around 1630 EDT at Atlantic City, New Jersey. No one was seriously injured, but four people on board suffered minor injuries.


"The plane had no business being at this airport," said Mark Klieger, the airport facilities manager, in an interview with ANN. He said that the airport is closed to jets (and is widely published to that effect).

He was concerned that this incident and resulting bad publicity could force the closure of the airport, which has been threatened recently. The twin engine jet (OY-JET) is a Cessna Citation CJ2, S/N 525A-0089.

An airport worker saw the jet do a low pass over runway 22 (2445 feet) where it flew close to a baseball stadium before turning back to the airport to approach runway 11 (2948 feet). A call from a neighbor prompted Klieger to go outside in time to see the aircraft attempt to land on runway 11.

Klieger said that the jet appeared to come in 'too fast,' and was unable to stop before going off the end of the runway into the water. Nearby boaters rescued the four on board, but the drama was just getting started.

Although the powerplants had reportedly been shut down, one of the engines either restarted or was throttled up, propelling the aircraft forward before it settled in. Bizarre as it may seem, according to Klieger, it was clearly moving through the water.

The police were moving to evacuate homes but then the aircraft hit a sand bar, and spun back around before the engine eventually shut down. After the accident, the pilot reported that he had had braking problems."
 
gfvalvo said:
Yea, but they're also for a company test pilot who is (presumably) on top of his game. Doesn't sound like this pair fit into that category.


These guys had 2 20 year old chicks with them...sounds like they had plenty of "game" unfortunately they left all BRAINS at the door.
 
VampyreGTX said:
I've got 12 more to squander, but in this specific case, they are old farts. I mean, he's with someone half his age... makes him old!

I take offense to this. I am finally about to hit the point where I could be with someone half my age, legally (36).

Now, if only my wife would see it this way.:rolleyes:
 
HMMMM....

2 "older" guys with 20 year olds going to AC (or going back there, I thiink thats where the plane was based (over at ACY)).

Bet them 2 20yr old were "pros" themselves if you know what I mean. There are lots of "pros" in the ACY area.

Flying 135 out of Philly I often went to ACY and picked up "older" men. funny thing is many of them were accompanied by much much yunger "professional" women. ACY to youngstown OH or Parkersburg WV was an often flown run by my company. Did it many times in a navajo. Mafia looking guy and his one or two "guests".
 
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Is it me or was he MOVIN' down that runway?
 
The guy obviously doesn't quite have both ores in the water. No pun intended of course. :)
 
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I think they changed the video...the old one showed the engine running in the water and the plane moving.
 
VampyreGTX said:
Here's the ANN report with a little more info...

An airport worker saw the jet do a low pass over runway 22 (2445 feet) where it flew close to a baseball stadium before turning back to the airport to approach runway 11 (2948 feet). A call from a neighbor prompted Klieger to go outside in time to see the aircraft attempt to land on runway 11.

Klieger said that the jet appeared to come in 'too fast,' and was unable to stop before going off the end of the runway into the water. Nearby boaters rescued the four on board, but the drama was just getting started.

If they landed runway 11 then they are even more stupid then I thought. 12 knot direct tailwind... calculate the landing distance for that. The guy looked like a dofus in the video clip, smiling and acting like it wasn't his fault "we had an ahh malfunction in an airplane system..."
 
The owners of this jet, Weibel Scientific A/S, in Alleröd/Denmark does not have the best of reputations when it comes to aircraft operations. Neither does the skipper.

As for the two passengers, they are both employees of Weibel Scientific. That they happen to be in their 20ies is coincidential. Their good looks, however, is a consequence of being of Danish stock; we rarely make them ugly over here ;)

Bloody long way to take a CJ2. RKE to ACY is around 3400NM great circle, I didn't think a dinky little toy like that was allowed to stray so far from home.

As for the registration - pretty cool innit? If the aircraft is a write-off that's kind of sad, as you are not allowed to re-use aircraft registrations in Denmark. Unless your name is Maersk McKinney-Möller of course (OY-MMM has been used on two HS125s, is currently on a CL604 and is rumoured to be headed for a Global Express XRS). Being the richest guy in Scandihoovia does have it's privileges.
 

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