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As far as the visa issue, I have heard that people are not allowed to rent an apartment or turn on utilitys etc, unless they have a working visa, which as of yet the company has not figured out...
 
I think what they will find is most foreign contract crew members start their trips outside of JP. ANC HNL or Australia or the contract to the pilot pays for the commutes. As I read some of this stuff I find it a bit funny management didn't have this stuff figured out before they got the contract. Still like I said nice looking A/C on the ramp in KIX yesterday.
 
As far as the visa issue, I have heard that people are not allowed to rent an apartment or turn on utilitys etc, unless they have a working visa, which as of yet the company has not figured out...

Would seem as though the company would have to provide accommodations to the crews until they are able to setup their own residence. Would be interesting to hear more about that!
 
Would seem as though the company would have to provide accommodations to the crews until they are able to setup their own residence. Would be interesting to hear more about that!

He He He He snarf gasp (ROLFLMAO) Oh my. (wiping the tears of laughter away)

Well, since the judge ruled the contract argueably allows the company to open a KIX domicle perhaps we should now grieve (or go back to court and sue on)the inability of a crewmember to actually live (reside) in Japan legally.
 
Some facts to add to your discussion:

I don't think that ABX will be able to sponsor any crew member for a residence Visa in Japan. Could it be done with ANA's help? Sure because everything in Japan is based on Influence, contacts and economical might but I find it hard to believe that ANA will get involved in using their influence and name to solve an internal problem between ABX and their employees. Their attitude will be more like "do what you must to comply with our agreement or we will agree with someone else"

To rent an apartment, get a phone line, obtain a drivers license and everything else that involves day to day living in Japan you need a resident alien card. Now having said that, Gambling is illegal in Japan but there are Pachinco parlors everywhere, right? My point is that there are ways. There are real state agents that will find and rent apartments under their names and rent them to you (for a fee of course)

Some of the contract pilots that work for the ANA group do not reside in Japan,(the 767's) some do like the Q-400's and the 737's (they are sponsored for residence in Japan for the duration of their contracts) for the 767's.They only sponsor you for a resident alien card while you are on training and your card will be taken from you after your training is over. Why? Tax liability, The only way that the company is able to get away with not paying retirement funding, taxes and all other social benefits that an employer must contribute to in Japan is if you are an outside contractor and do not hold legal residence in Japan.
Contractors do not come in and out of the country with a Visitor visa, but rather come in and out with a Shore Pass. (even on your commute)
 
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Some facts to add to your discussion:

I don't think that ABX will be able to sponsor any crew member for a residence Visa in Japan.

I initially did not take the KIX domicile plan seriously for just that reason, I did not believe it was possible or realistic for the company to obtain resident visas for our employees. But the company claims that it is possible. I don't know any details, don't know whether it has ANA's support or not, but I do know that the company is applying for resident visas for the KIX crewmembers. Whether they will be successful remains to be seen. Some of the ABX mechanics have obtained resident visas.

Contractors do not come in and out of the country with a Visitor visa, but rather come in and out with a Shore Pass. (even on your commute)

Our crewmembers typically use the 90-day visitor visa, except NRT layovers where they use a shore pass. The visitor visa is available on the NRT layovers as an option if the crewmember needs it (ie: deadhead back to KIX).
 
Our crewmembers typically use the 90-day visitor visa, except NRT layovers where they use a shore pass. The visitor visa is available on the NRT layovers as an option if the crewmember needs it (ie: deadhead back to KIX).

Interesting. We where told that the space/time continuum would rupture if this where to happen.

Some of the ABX mechanics have obtained resident visas

As legal workers living in Japan, the company is responsible for the payments of retirement fund, medical and other social benefits that all workers get in Japan, that is the reason why we have a commuting contract.
Residents are also tax liable. I'll ask one of our 737 guys how is that been handled in their case
 
More pressure on DHL:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Calls for DHL Withdrawal[/FONT]

A second major investment house is calling for Deutsche Post to pull DHL out of North America.
Morgan Stanley, following on the heels of Bear Stearns, said in a Jan. 7 research report that the company needs a "quick, radical solution" to the estimated $900 million in losses DHL faces in the United States.

The firm likened the Deutsche Post problems to those of the former DaimlerChrysler before that automaker took action by splitting off its troubled U.S. Chrysler business.

"A substantial cut in network size, combined with subcontracting and a focus on international services (revenues from $4.5 billion to $1.7 billion), is the most logical outcome, we think," the firm said.
Morgan Stanley's call follows a similar plea late last month from Bear Stearns, which argues the losses in the United States are eating into Deutsche Post's overall value to shareholders.

Morgan Stanley went a step further, however, and suggested Deutsche Post may be close to making the same decision. With a new chief financial officer at DP, the firm wrote, "we sense management has stepped up a gear in terms of addressing investors' longstanding sore point -- the U.S. business."

http://www.aircargoworld.com/break_news/01082008d.htm
 
More pressure on DHL:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]New Calls for DHL Withdrawal[/FONT]

A second major investment house is calling for Deutsche Post to pull DHL out of North America.
Morgan Stanley, following on the heels of Bear Stearns, said in a Jan. 7 research report that the company needs a "quick, radical solution" to the estimated $900 million in losses DHL faces in the United States.

The firm likened the Deutsche Post problems to those of the former DaimlerChrysler before that automaker took action by splitting off its troubled U.S. Chrysler business.

"A substantial cut in network size, combined with subcontracting and a focus on international services (revenues from $4.5 billion to $1.7 billion), is the most logical outcome, we think," the firm said.
Morgan Stanley's call follows a similar plea late last month from Bear Stearns, which argues the losses in the United States are eating into Deutsche Post's overall value to shareholders.

Morgan Stanley went a step further, however, and suggested Deutsche Post may be close to making the same decision. With a new chief financial officer at DP, the firm wrote, "we sense management has stepped up a gear in terms of addressing investors' longstanding sore point -- the U.S. business."

http://www.aircargoworld.com/break_news/01082008d.htm

I wonder if the "sense management has stepped up a gear" is about the new year restructuring? I wonder if the new year restructuring is the 1/3 reduction in flying everyone (workers not mgmt.) is talking about?
 

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