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fob727 said:
Go post with the RAH pilots, POS!
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fob727 said:
Sour grapes, my a$$. It's called reality. You can work at RAH wages. 1224 and the RAH Teamsters are setting the bar pretty low for the rest of us.
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I'm sorry, maybe it's an ALPO term, but please explain what you mean by "RAH" so that I can more completely understand if I'm supposed to be insulted by this or not. I'm guessing yes, but you never know. Goggle leads me to something related to Republic Airlines, but I'm sure you can fill us all in on your intended insinuations/accusations.

And by the way, thank you for your "genuine" concern for ABX Air and it's pilots.
 
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fob727 said:
Hap, there are no insinuations or accusations...just facts.
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Fob, you seem to have a crystal ball how about the wining powerball numbers for Sat. nite. (although you sure dicked up reading the tea leaves on how the Daz and DHL were going to screw you)!
 
nitefr8dog said:
Fob, you seem to have a crystal ball how about the wining powerball numbers for Sat. nite. (although you sure dicked up reading the tea leaves on how the Daz and DHL were going to screw you)!
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Nitey---Another great example of your stupidity
 
nitefr8dog said:
Sour grapes! What we did get and probably the most important is our retirement worth roughly 2-3.5m per pilot. The union and the company agreed to disburse the funds after ratification so the rest means little to me I will ride this mule until it dies. Or until DHL goes away then I will continue to fly AEROMEX,TNT or any of the 5-6 other companies we do work for DHL is just one of many. I know that is a deal killer for ASTAR not having DHL freight but it is not the end all for ABX.
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Sour grapes....LOL. I bet thats what Ryan pilots said to Emery pilots when they got shut down. When your flying gets outsourced....if I'm still payin attention.....I'll be servin a big ole helpin of Crow Stew and a side of Jacka$$ pie for ya nite. When you eat it....that extra little seaoning you'll be tasting....sour grapes. Take care.
 
AV8OR said:
Sour grapes....LOL. I bet thats what Ryan pilots said to Emery pilots when they got shut down. When your flying gets outsourced....if I'm still payin attention.....I'll be servin a big ole helpin of Crow Stew and a side of Jacka$$ pie for ya nite. When you eat it....that extra little seaoning you'll be tasting....sour grapes. Take care.
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Actually, I will be flying the other charters if DHL goes away so I could care less. And you will be paying attention because you will be out of work, nothing else to do. If you can still afford the internet.
 
nitefr8dog said:
Actually, I will be flying the other charters if DHL goes away so I could care less. And you will be paying attention because you will be out of work, nothing else to do. If you can still afford the internet.
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Hey guess what you arrogant senior POS.....I had a job when I came here, I've had side work the entire time I've been here, and thankfully, my ability to earn a great living has NEVER bee tied to DHL, AStar or ALPA. I'll be just fine d-head.....so trust me bro, I'll b sure and flame your sorry a$$ when you crumble.....you are one miserable f***! 1224 must be proud.
 
AV8OR said:
Hey guess what you arrogant senior POS.....I had a job when I came here, I've had side work the entire time I've been here, and thankfully, my ability to earn a great living has NEVER bee tied to DHL, AStar or ALPA. I'll be just fine d-head.....so trust me bro, I'll b sure and flame your sorry a$$ when you crumble.....you are one miserable f***! 1224 must be proud.
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AV8OR you are a real treat yourself bro....d-head... a legend in your own mind. You sorry POS. That is all you can do is flame...go back to the panel for another 15 years...oh thats right you are out of work because you guys at ASTAR who can see the future did not see the glory hole pounding the DAZ and DHL were about to give you... and now you know how the ABX contract is going to turn out...BITE ME.
 
nitefr8dog said:
AV8OR you are a real treat yourself bro....d-head... a legend in your own mind. You sorry POS. That is all you can do is flame...go back to the panel for another 15 years...oh thats right you are out of work because you guys at ASTAR who can see the future did not see the glory hole pounding the DAZ and DHL were about to give you... and now you know how the ABX contract is going to turn out...BITE ME.
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Av....why argue with this a$$hole. In a short time, DHL and Hete will have him bent over.
 
Legend in my own mind?......Whatever man. Ya got a contract. Congrats. Good luck with that. Soon...I'll be sleepin nights again...in my own bed. Not under a bridge by the river. Got nothin else to defend on here. I'll just casually watch to see what happens...oh God of the ACMI world. CYA!!!
 
fob727 said:
Av....why argue with this a$$hole. In a short time, DHL and Hete will have him bent over.
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Fob...why listen to Av. You are both bitter about the airline job you picked.Trying to blame other pilot groups for your bad choice will not make you feel better. Find a job get the family off the government cheese....its not that bad.
 
nitefr8dog said:
Fob...why listen to Av. You are both bitter about the airline job you picked.Trying to blame other pilot groups for your bad choice will not make you feel better. Find a job get the family off the government cheese....its not that bad.
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Bitter? Far from it, $hit-for-brains. Things are lining up quite nicely.

Obviously, you are part of that 10%.
 
fob727 said:
Yeah, I know. I had to see what amazingly dumba$$ statement you made today.
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fob...AV80R, it is a shame to waste that keen insight you guys have....you two should take your dog and pony medicine show on the road...you could help steer all these airlines in the right direction.(although you suck at predicting your own airline future)
 
fob727 said:
Sour grapes, my a$$. It's called reality.

You can work at RAH wages. 1224 and the RAH Teamsters are setting the bar pretty low for the rest of us.
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no idea what RAH means. But to add a little perspective, the new ABX TA pays more and has more days off than the Korean Air 777 job. Or any other 777 job that's available, for that matter.
 
FastHap said:
Probably should be worded "someone down the chain", but why no confidence that ALPA will get you a pay raise??
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I'm thinking a bit more strategically. Maybe I should have used "exercise" instead of "take advantage of"...

I do hope we get a pay raise. What's disturbing about that SL that one airline appears to be attempting to dictate the hiring practices of two others without so much as a 'by your leave'.
 
b707guy said:
I'm thinking a bit more strategically. Maybe I should have used "exercise" instead of "take advantage of"...

I do hope we get a pay raise. What's disturbing about that SL that one airline appears to be attempting to dictate the hiring practices of two others without so much as a 'by your leave'.
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Not to start anything, and from your posts I consider you a stand-up, level headed guy, but lets not forget who bought whom.

Had ATI stayed Teamsters, I'm sure that you would have been consulted and had amble opportunity to amend our side letter to meet your needs/wishes. ATI is now ALPA, for better or worse.

Best wishes to all of us under the "ATSG Umbrella".
 
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FastHap said:
but lets not forget who bought whom.
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ABX didn't buy anyone. ABX Holdings did and changed their name. And they didn't buy CHI because CHI needed to be bought. They bought it/us to survive something I think they saw coming. We didn't just add value. We ensured it. And, we've never been and never will be a feeder or 'express' regional supplying a bigger fish a-la CAL, DAL, UAL, AA, etc to have our shots called. We don't need them called for us. Don't get me wrong - we're happy to work together, and maybe, I'll go so far as to say 'probably', we'll all be one company under one certificate. But this is a strange way to show the love.

Who knows - maybe this is a baby step towards a national seniority list. But to quote a line from Blood Diamond, most people like to be kissed before they get xxxxed. We didn't even get a 'hello' before this proposal was put out. Now isn't that brotherly.

As you said, ATI is now ALPA, along with Cappy. So how is it that ABX represented by IBT can tell two ALPA carriers who to hire? Guess we'll see.
 

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