AAI Pilots Beware!!

[SWA/FO]

"Welcome to the trannyDraft 2011 = no interview, no problem; no type = no problem; never applied, no problem...welcome to the draft...Oh y'all want to be the number one pick? Dallas we have a problem!"

 

[ATLplt]

Who the f**k said we wanted to be #1? You SWA guys have gone full retarded, and you NEVER go full retard...ever. I for one can't wait for the SLI to come out. It'll be hilarious to watch you guys go apes**t over it.

 

[ASADFW7]

Full retard Sean Penn went full retard in I am Sam..

 

[Jim]

In other words you are salivating over the opportunity to cross a picket line for your own personal gain.

I know another pilot group that would do the same thing.

M

Obviously you're talking about the same group that doesn't know what "binding arbitration" means.

 

[malibuVride]

Here it is from the MEC:
"In addition, the MEC will be discussing the activation of our Strategic Preparedness and Strike Committee to bring pressure against the company."

SWA just can't save this place soon enough! One to two years of grievances, system boards, and arbitrations before working under the SWAPA contract is going to get really ugly really fast!!

I just hope SWA and SWAPA see the logic and need for such aggressive actions and don't label this group as militants, or see this as a threat to their prized culture.

 

[crj567]

I here your MEC is planning to activate your Strategic Prep and Strike Committee in response to your company's complete disregard for your new contract(a contract you wouldn't even have minus this acquisition).

I know y'all have fought long and hard for your new contract. Without this acquisition, you would still be fighting.

This type of aggression is not the path to a career at SWA. GK and our mgmt are very protective of our culture and will protect it however necessary.

Your MEC is leading you down a path that will jeapodize your futures with SWA. Then again, with an MEC VC who has openly expressed his hatred for SWA, and an MEC Chair with such lofty goals within ALPA Ntl, maybe this is the idea.

Strike, a word y'all have used on numerous occassions, has never been spoken in our path to our industry-leading contract. Consider this fact as you characterize this acquisition as a merger of equals.

Wow- This one takes the cake.... SkyNazi level arrogance from this winner.

 

[GuppyWN]

You guys are activating a Strike Committee? To pressure the company?

OK.... Even if I didn't work for WN I'd tell you that you are ********************ing crazy! Like a couple of your brothers have said - don't mess this up for the other 98%.

I hope Gary is paying attention.

Gup

 

[orangebellyav8r]

Let em go on strike....It will be easier to put them on the bottom when SWA shuts them down.

 

[General Lee]

Who the f**k said we wanted to be #1? You SWA guys have gone full retarded, and you NEVER go full retard...ever. I for one can't wait for the SLI to come out. It'll be hilarious to watch you guys go apes**t over it.

+1. It will be interesting to watch. It is amazing to see the entitlement issues these guys have. But, REGARDLESS, I THINK ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE FANTASTIC INDIVIDUALS. And AT guys, make sure you tell ATC that you have "company" in sight when following a corndog somewhere across the country. I bet they would LUV that.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You guys are activating a Strike Committee? To pressure the company?

OK.... Even if I didn't work for WN I'd tell you that you are ********************ing crazy! Like a couple of your brothers have said - don't mess this up for the other 98%.

I hope Gary is paying attention.

Gup

Wall St. is, and they like the merger, a lot. But hey, if you want to not move into ATL, oh well....... It's time for you guys(your management) to give the AT guys what they want, NOW. They will eventually get it anyway. Can't spoil the "culture", can ya? You may be right though, these AT guys have WON THE LOTTERY. Good for them.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Wesb737fo]

This board has officially gone Full Retard. The only thing I see is one guy making an outrageous statement and a handful of others falling for it.....really guys.....you don't have anything better to do. I visit this board because, on occasion (10 percent of the time) I might find something useful or amusing. Now 99.9 percent it's guys like orange belly. Of course I know that by typing this I have wasted 2 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Now I have to go, my kids are waking up.

 

[DonVerita]

Again...we have a non-AAI pilot (Lonestar) coming on here thinking he knows everything about the AAI situation past and present. Get real dude. You don't have a clue because you don't have boots on the ground here.

Having said that...don't come on here acting all high and mighty. We had a 98% strike vote. The guys here were, and still are, so fed up with this management that they were itching to go on strike and finally have the end all, be all of final battles. Think this place could last more than 2 weeks shut down? Not a chance. Everything was on track with the NMB for a release (and strike center about to open)...until this merger announcement on 9/27 came along which changed the whole dynamic.

One last thing...the count of scabs here remaining from the EAL days are approx. 20; not 50 like you stated. How many scabs are there at SWA?

 

[Lear70]

This board has officially gone Full Retard. The only thing I see is one guy making an outrageous statement and a handful of others falling for it.....really guys.....you don't have anything better to do. I visit this board because, on occasion (10 percent of the time) I might find something useful or amusing. Now 99.9 percent it's guys like orange belly. Of course I know that by typing this I have wasted 2 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Now I have to go, my kids are waking up.

+1

Now, a few fun FACTS, which I know are never popular on FlightInfo, but here they are:

1. We can't go on strike unless released by the NMB or a Federal Judge. We have no plans to ask for such a thing. We're not preparing for a strike. Or any OTHER illegal job action. Those of you who have never lived under a management group whose actions NECESSITATED a SPSC probably don't understand its full role. It's a committee, just like any other committee. ONE of its functions is preparing for a LEGAL strike. Many of the OTHER functions including organizing picketing, launching public awareness campaigns such as news releases, interviews, billboards, and other items which may impact stock price and/or ticket sales.

2. This kind of contract reinterpretation and outright violation won't go on for a year. On Date of Corporate Closing, Gary Kelly has been quoted publicly as saying "All decisions from Orlando STOP. Everything will go through Dallas. Period." I tend to believe that once GK and his management team have operational control, that the violations will stop and we can actually ENJOY the few real Quality of Life items that we obtained in the Scheduling Section until we are no longer under AirTran's CBA (guaranteed 125-150% premium pay for ALL trip pick ups inside 48 hours, actual USE of Call-First/Call-Last, actual implementation of the bucket systems, etc).

After talking with some union officials, it appears that the intent of activating the SPSC this time around is to put pressure on the company by threatening a negative publicity campaign, maybe starting off with a nice big article in the Dallas Morning News and going from there if things don't get back on track.

The other things the Association is doing to try to force compliance includes withdrawing the relief from building lines with 20 hours of rest minimum on West Coast trips that arrive after 2200 LOCAL time for February (we had given them TEMPORARY relief from this in January). Because of the way the flights are built to the West Coast, we basically just forced the company to build 30-35 hour layovers in all the West Coast pairings out of MCO and ATL for the entire month since the marketing schedule can't be changed. That's going to cost the company over $1 Million dollars. Just for February. For something that costs them about $50,000 that they are denying us.

There is no intent of a strike. Simply using the tools we have to legally attempt to bring management into compliance with our CBA since all attempts at settling this peacefully through discussions have failed. In other words, union officials tried to work peacefully with management for something that was VERY clear in its intent and, in the end, they simply said "No, grieve it."

We now return you to rumor and innuendo...

 

[Dash Power]

This board has officially gone Full Retard. The only thing I see is one guy making an outrageous statement and a handful of others falling for it.....really guys.....you don't have anything better to do. I visit this board because, on occasion (10 percent of the time) I might find something useful or amusing. Now 99.9 percent it's guys like orange belly. Of course I know that by typing this I have wasted 2 minutes of my life that I'll never get back. Now I have to go, my kids are waking up.

Man isn't this the truth. Unfortunately I am one to fall for it. I am an honest, sincere person and look at these boards for useful information. But I largely find my self defending myself, or debating with the imbalanced. I have discovered that anyone with over a couple thousand posts are more than likely one of the imbalanced.

Thanks for the reality check.

 

[Ty Webb]

Man isn't this the truth. Unfortunately I am one to fall for it. I am an honest, sincere person and look at these boards for useful information. But I largely find my self defending myself, or debating with the imbalanced. I have discovered that anyone with over a couple thousand posts are more than likely one of the imbalanced.

Thanks for the reality check.

I have 4,000 + posts since 2001. That's about 1 post a day. I guess that makes me as "imbalanced" as anyone.

The definition of imbalanced is:

: lack of balance : the state of being out of equilibrium or out of proportion

I would say that many who joined Flightinfo in the last few months solely to vaunt their opinions on the SWA-AAI SLI may be unbalanced, which is defined as

a. Mentally deranged. b. Not exhibiting sound judgment; irrational.

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