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From someone who has been on strike...
Thanks Dan.
-and thanks to everyone who contributed during that time.

No worries. I've been watching this food fight from the peanut gallery and decided I couldn't bite my tongue any longer. I don't care what airline you work for for, we all need to respect each other as fellow airline pilots rather than the inane concept that the paint job on the side of your airplane somehow makes you superior to someone else. I have nothing but respect for SWA and they have done a good job at the type of service they do. I've met plenty of SWA folks that are stand up people, just as much as any other airline. I really do appreciate their pro employee culture and respect the fact that their employees are supportative of the place that puts food on their table.
But..... listening to the SWA folks on here they are starting to sound a little over the top in the self centered department The concept that any of them would see AT having labor difficulties as an opportunity for them is pretty sad. SWA and AirTran are two similar LCC airlines, just like DAL and NWA were two similar legacies. Of course their are differences, but by and large I expect that's what an arbitrator would think and not be wearing SWA colored glasses when you merge.
 
In other words you are salivating over the opportunity to cross a picket line for your own personal gain.[/QUOT

I know another pilot group that would do the same thing.

M
 
Dan

I am having a ball stiring the pot. These guys are so easy to get their goat. I ain't had this much fun in a long time. TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. Watch how many will say something about that.
 
Dan

I am having a ball stiring the pot. These guys are so easy to get their goat. I ain't had this much fun in a long time. TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. Watch how many will say something about that.

Fair enough even if I don't agree with you!. My take about these boards is you really can't judge anyone by their posts. If we all met in person it would be a whole different dynamic.
 
Dan
No need to agree or not agree. I am having fun stiring the pot. There is nothing we can do with this SWA/AAI deal. All we do is drive the bus. So why not have fun with fools that think they have control on what is going to happen.
 
Dan
No need to agree or not agree. I am having fun stiring the pot. There is nothing we can do with this SWA/AAI deal. All we do is drive the bus. So why not have fun with fools that think they have control on what is going to happen.

Well you are right, and has been made infinitely clear here, I'm on the outside looking in, but... it seems to me you are playing with the SWA culture here. Screw this up and the ramifications could be huge. Mergers fail more often than they succeed. Look at USAir. Piedmont and USAir were arguably stronger airlines than SWA/AirTran are now and USAir/AWA......well enough said.
This may go OK or it could be the beginning of your downfall.
 
Dan
No need to agree or not agree. I am having fun stiring the pot. There is nothing we can do with this SWA/AAI deal. All we do is drive the bus. So why not have fun with fools that think they have control on what is going to happen.

This is what this form is supposed to be, fun and informational. Until people realize that they are a number they can't control, you will put ten years back on your life.
 
its just trannytalk.... nothing to see here, move along. see you all at the trannyDraft 2011!! Can't wait!!!
 
please go on strike so we can make this better and easy

The funny thing is that this group, despite their threats and votes, will not nor would have gone on strike. The MEC silenced the SPSC and continually delayed opening the strike ops center. Further, they were heading toward a timeline for release, cooling off, and strike, that would have surely resulted in a firm NO from the NMB.

Also, a group ready to shut an airline down does not do all the little things the AT pilots on this forum pride themselves in. Pilots who are ready to shut it down don't push early, don't fly anything that isn't 100% perfect, don't accept shortcuts, certainly don't single-engine taxi, etc. This is precisely why AT mgmt was so unconcerned with the strike vote.

Oh, one more thing. I think AT still has about 50 guys on line(and a training dept full) who have proven once already how they feel about striking.
 
"Welcome to the trannyDraft 2011 = no interview, no problem; no type = no problem; never applied, no problem...welcome to the draft...Oh y'all want to be the number one pick? Dallas we have a problem!"
 
Who the f**k said we wanted to be #1? You SWA guys have gone full retarded, and you NEVER go full retard...ever. I for one can't wait for the SLI to come out. It'll be hilarious to watch you guys go apes**t over it.
 
Here it is from the MEC:
"In addition, the MEC will be discussing the activation of our Strategic Preparedness and Strike Committee to bring pressure against the company."

SWA just can't save this place soon enough! One to two years of grievances, system boards, and arbitrations before working under the SWAPA contract is going to get really ugly really fast!!

I just hope SWA and SWAPA see the logic and need for such aggressive actions and don't label this group as militants, or see this as a threat to their prized culture.
 
I here your MEC is planning to activate your Strategic Prep and Strike Committee in response to your company's complete disregard for your new contract(a contract you wouldn't even have minus this acquisition).

I know y'all have fought long and hard for your new contract. Without this acquisition, you would still be fighting.

This type of aggression is not the path to a career at SWA. GK and our mgmt are very protective of our culture and will protect it however necessary.

Your MEC is leading you down a path that will jeapodize your futures with SWA. Then again, with an MEC VC who has openly expressed his hatred for SWA, and an MEC Chair with such lofty goals within ALPA Ntl, maybe this is the idea.

Strike, a word y'all have used on numerous occassions, has never been spoken in our path to our industry-leading contract. Consider this fact as you characterize this acquisition as a merger of equals.

Wow- This one takes the cake.... SkyNazi level arrogance from this winner.
 
You guys are activating a Strike Committee? To pressure the company?

OK.... Even if I didn't work for WN I'd tell you that you are ********************ing crazy! Like a couple of your brothers have said - don't mess this up for the other 98%.

I hope Gary is paying attention.

Gup
 
Who the f**k said we wanted to be #1? You SWA guys have gone full retarded, and you NEVER go full retard...ever. I for one can't wait for the SLI to come out. It'll be hilarious to watch you guys go apes**t over it.

+1. It will be interesting to watch. It is amazing to see the entitlement issues these guys have. But, REGARDLESS, I THINK ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE FANTASTIC INDIVIDUALS. And AT guys, make sure you tell ATC that you have "company" in sight when following a corndog somewhere across the country. I bet they would LUV that.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
You guys are activating a Strike Committee? To pressure the company?

OK.... Even if I didn't work for WN I'd tell you that you are ********************ing crazy! Like a couple of your brothers have said - don't mess this up for the other 98%.

I hope Gary is paying attention.

Gup

Wall St. is, and they like the merger, a lot. But hey, if you want to not move into ATL, oh well....... It's time for you guys(your management) to give the AT guys what they want, NOW. They will eventually get it anyway. Can't spoil the "culture", can ya? You may be right though, these AT guys have WON THE LOTTERY. Good for them.


Bye Bye---General Lee
 

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