AA/USAir non SLI?

[abefly]

Certainly it's your right to ask the court to give you something beyond what you were given by the company in the MOU, but that did not answer the question.

You will have your answer soon enough, again you can't fix stupid.

I for one can't wait to listen to USAPA's limp dick attorneys try to dig there way out of this one.

 

[Turtle21]

That is my question. Why would APA accept,and use, any list that is not the final said list.

I would think APA would want to stay out of USAir/ AWA fight.

I also do not think it would be in APAs best interest, to send everything(AA/USair/ AWA) to an arbitrator .

APA needs to take care of the AA pilots first. Hence, they need a final list from the new USair, before they can even start any integration .

Your question is not the same question I asked.

 

[UALjan15]

Why would APA accept (or why would USAPA offer) any list that doesn't account for why each pilot is in their current position, exactly according to their awarded bids?

The short answer is that a list that accounts for each pilot's current bid position doesn't help much if we are operating two separate operations, and is absolutely useless in an SLI. Seniority number is everything, bid position is subject to all kinds of things that don't matter in an SLI.

APA has said only one consistent thing with regard to the east/west list: that they don't want to inherit the fight. They want one US list--it doesn't have to make everyone happy, but it would be nice if it had legal justification, so that part of the new AA list is not subject to continuing legal challenge.

What USAPA wants to put forth as that list makes no difference, as it is negotiating only for east interests. The path that leads us to a single list to give to APA will come through the courts, will likely be appealed, and will eventually be the final answer. And in all likelihood, it will be Nicolau's list.

USAPA knows this, but their strategy was/is/always will be this: upgrade as many F/Os as possible before the Nic is imposed, delaying that date through litigation as long as possible, banking on the reasonable assumption that no bump/no flush will be in effect after the final SLI. Largely, this strategy is working like a champ, and I don't see how it stops working in the near term. Will west pilots ever be compensated for these lost earnings? Great question.

 

[slaquer5]

Your question is not the same question I asked.

You don't like answering questions do you. Are the rest of the USAir E pilots as far out in left field as you ?

 

[Turtle21]

Why would APA accept (or why would USAPA offer) any list that doesn't account for why each pilot is in their current position, exactly according to their awarded bids?

The short answer is that a list that accounts for each pilot's current bid position doesn't help much ..

A civil post once in awhile in these threads is a welcome event!

I certainly agree that a seniority list is necessary to have a seniority list integration. That was the premise to my question. It is not possible to integrate lists that are not a seniority list. A seniority list by definition is a basis for why each pilot holds their current position... its what they bid, and the company awarded it to them in their seniority order. If a list is not being used by the company to award bid positions then it by definition is not a seniority list.

Why would APA or USAPA use such a list for SLI?

 

[General Lee]

Do you have an answer?

We all know some of the West posters are rabidly persuaded that USAPA is stupid and will do everything they can to harm poor children across the whole earth.

If you have something other than insults..

Answer this: did all 3 groups (West, East, Mangagement) all sign on the bottom line to abide by Binding Arbitration before it started? Another question: Did all sides agree to Nicolau?

If so, then YOU ARE WRONG.....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Turtle21]

You don't like answering questions do you. Are the rest of the USAir E pilots as far out in left field as you ?

Is your daughter a west pilots.

 

[Scoot 11]

Is your daughter a west pilots.

Were your mother and father brother and sister?
Answer the question!

 

[Turtle21]

Were your mother and father brother and sister?
Answer the question!

No. Projection?

 

[Scoot 11]

No. Projection?

Typical eastie. BTW, thanks for trying bring down the industry to your level. Good thing is when you're on the bottom, you've got no where to go but up?
Maybe. But you've got the pride knowing a MESA pilot is making more than a 190 captain!:laugh:
Kharma is a bitch, and she's about to slap you courtesy of the APA! But don't let that stop your from your constant :crying::crying:!