AA/USAir non SLI?

[Turtle21]

Of course that applies to your position just as much or how else do you justify ignoring an integration arbitration decision that was signed by both sides?

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

 

[Turtle21]

Of course that applies to your position just as much or how else do you justify ignoring an integration arbitration decision that was signed by both sides?

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

 

[Turtle21]

Of course that applies to your position just as much or how else do you justify ignoring an integration arbitration decision that was signed by both sides?

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

 

[Turtle21]

Of course that applies to your position just as much or how else do you justify ignoring an integration arbitration decision that was signed by both sides?

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

 

[Bringupthebird]

Evidently Turdle enjoys listening to (deluding) himself. I guess someone has to.

 

[Bringupthebird]

You show me one industry anywhere in this country that someone has not used a loop hole to further their cause?

Show me where that same group extorted tens of millions from the same ones they screwed through their selfishness. Loophole? Maybe. Hijack the union and hold 5300 pilots hostage so that a thin sliver can gain what was denied them through legal process. Never!

 

[General Lee]

Of course greed applies to my position, whatever it is, and to yours too. That was the point. Everyone uses all the rules of the game to get the best outcome for them. You bid your best shot every month. Its part of being in a union. Its part of life.

The arbitration was contingent on both sides voting it into existence. That did not happen. It was the rule. It was what it was.

Now we have a new contingent seniority integration agreement that replaces the old one. If the POR is approved we all move forward as one big happy (whining) family. Life will go one. The sun may even come up!

Was that a part of the deal Turtle? It said at the bottom of the page ALL OF YOU SIGNED......"If we don't like it, then we can NOT vote it into existence..." Riiiiiiight. Yeah, everyone needs to read the fine print a little more, right? You are sooo full of it, and the last judge said you are on dangerous ground, so it aint lookin good for you third listers....sorry.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Ocity]

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

Saying it 50x doesn't make it true. Your new agreed upon "process" doesn't change a thing between East and West. It's ONLY applicable between USAPA and APA. I defy you to find a single reference to an East/West integration inte MOU. Look at the first paragraph where it spells out who the effective parties to the agreement are...see "West Pilots"? Nope.

Best of luck with the new delay campaign. You can't run forever though.

 

[Flybywire44]

Dork? Our merger went great because both sides followed the BINDING award. You guys are a complete joke! I'd comment more on our situation, but I don't have to, it went great, both sides have INTEGRITY. So, now I get to comment on your new "union's" unravelling, and it will be interesting to watch. I do think it funny that because I was hired somewhere, you think I can't point out OBVIOUS wrongs that your group did to another. Your group's action can affect us all. "Oh, I guess we don't like something we all signed up for, so we'll just dump the union and the award and start a new one....." What a bunch of jackholes.


Bye Bye---General Lee

DAL/NWA learned their lessons from USAPA. Delta pilots don't have any more or less integrity than any other pilot group.

 

[abefly]

Of course it does. Greed applies to your position, my position, and everyone else's position. That is life. We all apply every rule available to us to get the best deal we can. You bid every month, maybe everyday. That is life.

We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence. That did not happen. Now we have a new seniority integration agreement that will replace the old agreement, also contingent... contingent on the POR approval. We will all move along as one big happy family according to the new agreement that we all voted for. The sun may even come up tomorrow!

"We had a seniority agreement contingent on each side voting it into effect, into existence."

The whole each side voting in a contract part of the transition agreement was gona when USAPA was voted in as our single union.

USAPA then inherited all of the contracts and responsibilities of representing all pilots EAST/WEST equally. Which they have failed at.

The final step required in the transition agreement was a final C.B.A.

The ninth circuit and Judge Silver both concluded that the West case was not ripe because there was still no single contract. There had to be some economic gain for one group against another in order for the case to be ripe. Now it is ripe. You will lose, it is a matter of time. Unfortunately, thanks to USAPA and its idiot founders and groupies, we all have lost A Lot of money.