AA/USAir non SLI?

[Turtle21]

The turd had a hangup on 98% as if it's justification for USAPA's tactics. As we are seeing, there is more to votes than numbers and judges have plenty of leeway to impose justice in spite of them.

Tell Crimi(nal) to speak slower when he's spitting at you.

Judges have had five years to "get it right" and somehow they couldn't. Now they have the plaintiff voting to approve USAPA's representational duties, by a 98% margin. Wonder how it will go now.

 

[TWA Dude]

It's so funny how you keep repeating the 98% number as if it somehow means something favorable to Usapa. 98% of the Phx pilots voted for the MOU because Leonidas recommended we do so. Find out why in court.

 

[Bringupthebird]

USAPA polluted the process to the point where voting was a formality anyhow. They destroyed the credibility of the entire US pilot group and resigned us to a marginal position in a merger. Oh yeah, and then they raised the dues in a backroom deal by $20million to cover their lack of foresight.

 

[Turtle21]

It's so funny how you keep repeating the 98% number as if it somehow means something favorable to Usapa. 98% of the Phx pilots voted for the MOU because Leonidas recommended we do so. Find out why in court.

If your goal is to prove USAPA and the company are colluding to eliminate an SLI according to LOA 96, against your wishes and to your harm, then Leo should not have recommended you vote approving a new seniority integration agreement that replaces LOA 96, contingent on the POR approval.

 

[Turtle21]

USAPA polluted the process to the point where voting was a formality anyhow. They destroyed the credibility of the entire US pilot group and resigned us to a marginal position in a merger. Oh yeah, and then they raised the dues in a backroom deal by $20million to cover their lack of foresight.

The vote was a mere formality? Certainly the MOU would have passed even if every pilot in the West class had voted against it... So why vote 98% for a mew seniority integration agreement that moves us past the stalemate with the company, and then sue. You agreed to the contingent change, making it much more difficult to argue that the contingent change is harmful to you.

 

[General Lee]

The vote was a mere formality? Certainly the MOU would have passed even if every pilot in the West class had voted against it... So why vote 98% for a mew seniority integration agreement that moves us past the stalemate with the company, and then sue. You agreed to the contingent change, making it much more difficult to argue that the contingent change is harmful to you.

Turtle,

You keep forgetting the small fact that you disregarded a binding award. That's called "big picture." But wait, now you want binding arbitration again? You will lose. The last judge said USAPA was on "dangerous ground." That will be harmful to your group.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[TWA Dude]

If your goal is to prove USAPA and the company are colluding to eliminate an SLI according to LOA 96, against your wishes and to your harm, then Leo should not have recommended you vote approving a new seniority integration agreement that replaces LOA 96, contingent on the POR approval.

Um, okay, I'll make sure Leonidas hears your helpful advice.

 

[Turtle21]

Um, okay, I'll make sure Leonidas hears your helpful advice.

Too late. 98%.

 

[Bringupthebird]

The vote was a mere formality? Certainly the MOU would have passed even if every pilot in the West class had voted against it... So why vote 98% for a mew seniority integration agreement that moves us past the stalemate with the company, and then sue. You agreed to the contingent change, making it much more difficult to argue that the contingent change is harmful to you.

That's like saying that USAPA MIGS have given tacit approval to USAPA's delay scheme on account of their membership in the union.

I would say your ability to read judges' minds has a pretty pitiful track record. Your best bet would be to petition Hummel to put a change to the C&BL's( removing DOH as a prime directive) out for a vote soon.

 

[Turtle21]

That's like saying that USAPA MIGS have given tacit approval to USAPA's delay scheme on account of their membership in the union.

I would say your ability to read judges' minds has a pretty pitiful track record. Your best bet would be to petition Hummel to put a change to the C&BL's( removing DOH as a prime directive) out for a vote soon.

Why bother to change the CBL, it would be a further waste of time and money since it has no impact on MB.. err, I mean since it has been the Nic for 5+ years now. We need to save all our pennies for the billions in damages.