AA Pilot Disciplined for Taxiing Slow???

[Captain Morgan]

What's this I hear about a MGT Pilot calling up the company while taxiing behind another AA plane and claiming the CA was taxiing slow on purpose. The slow taxiing pilot was given 15 days off without pay. What's this all about?

http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/09/american-airlines-pilots-at-od.html

 

[Beetle007]

I have known pilots who have gotten fired for taxiing too slow.

 

[BigMotorToter]

It's true. APA just put out an official message about making sure all pilots taxi with BOTH engines running so as to taxi as SAFE as possible.

This was in response to the pilot who was given 15 off with no pay.

The Captain who narked on the "offending" Captain is a management Captain, and the kicker is he used his cell phone WHILE TAXIING (FAA no-no) behind the guy he thought was taxiing to slow.

More to follow, but rest assured this one is going to co$t AA some serious cash (fuel) in retaliation.

 

[j41driver]

How could he pick just one?? They all taxi extra slow. That said, the discipline is complete BS.

 

[Tomct]

How could he pick just one?? They all taxi extra slow.

You got THAT RIGHT! Nobody taxi's as slow as the "Sky-Nazi's" Always slowed down the movement of ground traffic at DFW...well that and the crazy SWERVING going on over there...I don't know, maybe they are not qualified to be flying those jets.

 

[aa73]

We're not taxiing slow - you all are just taxiing too fast, you SWA wannabes. Ground operations are where most incidents happen. If you are in that much of a hurry, feel free to ask Ground to sidestep around us. We will gladly give way every time.

That said, this incident is nothing more than a clear case of management harassment against the pilot group during Sec 6. The management pilot made a call on his cell phone WHILE TAXIING to get the slow captain removed from his trip, and he was given time off without pay. DFW tower and his own Chief Pilot could find absolutely nothing wrong with this guys' taxi speed. The Co is going to look really ridiculous pursuing this.

 

[aa73]

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[Rez O. Lewshun]

What is the APA doing about this?

 

[satpak77]

can legal action be pursued against the MGT pilot and/or the unfair time off?

 

[Turtlesfly]

can legal action be pursued against the MGT pilot and/or the unfair time off?

This is America. You can sue anybody for anything. I would sue the ******************** out of him.

 

[Turtlesfly]

... and take it to the news organizations. Scare the general public by saying that you can get fired if you go at the speed the book tells you to go at.

 

[Raoul Duke]

I know that I have wanted to discipline some pilots in front of me from time to time for moving slower than the seasons but this seems over the top.

 

[Turtlesfly]

I know that I have wanted to discipline some pilots in front of me from time to time for moving slower than the seasons but this seems over the top.

Annoying? Perhaps. But for your boss to call it unsafe despite evidence to the contrary?

 

[Mamma]

Annoying? Perhaps. But for your boss to call it unsafe despite evidence to the contrary?

For you boss to get on a cell phone while taxiing and violate an FAR to report you going to slow is amazing arrogance. I hope he gets certificate action.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

F U ck management..!!!! Especially AMR and UNITED!

 

[Dan Roman]

For you boss to get on a cell phone while taxiing and violate an FAR to report you going to slow is amazing arrogance. I hope he gets certificate action.

If the APA doesn't pursue that they are making a big mistake.

 

[jetflier]

I believe that the AIM recomends "a brisk walk" as a safe taxi speed.

Have you ever tried a brisk walk down a 12000 foot runway ? It'ill take you 15 minutes !

Not to mention, that if you ever have a runway incursion, and are taxiing faster than a "brisk walk", the FAA will will most likely use that against you.

Since most pilots are paid by the minute its usually not an issue.

lets be safe out there

 

[Linedriver]

It's such a waste that a company that big cant provide a better place to work.

If you treat your employees well they will save you loads of $$ and be happier doing it. I

It's genius that only a few companies have figured out.

 

[AAflyer]

I believe that the AIM recomends "a brisk walk" as a safe taxi speed.

Have you ever tried a brisk walk down a 12000 foot runway ? It'ill take you 15 minutes !

Not to mention, that if you ever have a runway incursion, and are taxiing faster than a "brisk walk", the FAA will will most likely use that against you.

Since most pilots are paid by the minute its usually not an issue.

lets be safe out there

Somebody gets it!!

Cheers,

AAflyer

 

[~~~^~~~]

I'm not a fan of the slow taxi either, but this is rediculous.

12,000 foot runway in 15 minutes? I'd be happy if I could run it that fast. That is 2.3 miles, which would be a 9.2 MPH run. The World's fastest runner is around 15 miles per hour (4 minute mile).

A brisk walk, by a long legged indian, with a tail wind, is about 5.5 miles per hour.

I think I'd rather be in the airplane doing 5.5, than an airplane doing 30 to 40, with non-line-pilot Captain jinking along taxiways to pass, while cussing and digging his cell phone out of his luggage.

The unfortunate truth is the Chief pilot who saw nothing wrong will likely be the one who's position is in jeopardy.

An interesting aside fact, is that among the top ten unsat items on line checks, taxiing too fast is in the top three.

APA, where's the grievance? Dallas has ground track radar ... this should be an easy win.