AA Jumpseats Beware!! There may be imposters out there

[DFries]

Wow, See what one dumb post can start!!!!!! Hey ILS good call on the FAA Airman Database, Kinda makes this whole thread a moot point!!!

 

[NAA Pilot]

WOW! such hostility. All I did was perform a public service to warn you guys that some AA dipsh+t stole company property, property that contained personal information that would make a terrorist job more easy. As for denying a jumpseat, the seat is mine to do with as I see fit. If an AA guy or any other pilot does not pass the smell test they will NOT get on, FFDO or not!!

 

[NAA Pilot]

Wow, See what one dumb post can start!!!!!! Hey ILS good call on the FAA Airman Database, Kinda makes this whole thread a moot point!!!

Does the database say who you fly for and what base you fly out of? Does it contain your employee number?

 

[Gorilla]

Does the database say who you fly for and what base you fly out of? Does it contain your employee number?

I don't have a beef with the content of your message, just the way it was worded.

That said, guys, it just isn't that hard to find out things like employee number, base, DOH, and other pertinent info. Care should be taken by all to ensure Mr. Muhammed Whackamole never gets into the cockpit, period.

Some suicidal mullah might be able to get some fake docs, but they're going to have a hard time with small talk. "Say there, Achmed buddy, how's scope doing for you guys? Didja hear about Virgin America? Yeah that dip$hit Carty is onboard. How about the Wright amendment?" etc.

There's no way he can fake the chit-hat that any 121 guy would be comfortbale with.

 

[DFries]

WOW! such hostility. All I did was perform a public service to warn you guys that some AA dipsh+t stole company property, property that contained personal information that would make a terrorist job more easy. As for denying a jumpseat, the seat is mine to do with as I see fit. If an AA guy or any other pilot does not pass the smell test they will NOT get on, FFDO or not!!

Last time I checked, there was a part number on that seat..... meaning it's part of the Aircraft, WHICH BELONGS TO THE COMPANY.
I think the hostility is warranted based on the knee jerk reaction that is so typical of the "security" farce the airlines all are dealing with these days. Thanks for the public service announcement (are you sure you dont work for TSA) maybe you should. oh yea when your checking credentials, make sure the potential jumpseater doesnt have more than 3oz of liquids or gels on them

 

[NAA Pilot]

It may have a part number but you aint getting on unless I say it's OK.

 

[DFries]

Ok Napoleon!! I think I'm starting to get the picture, It's all about the power huh? Do you see any parallels here? One person+dumb action= alot of people unjustly scrutinized or inconvenienced. Im sure the guy who posted all that info on the internet is really happy there are people like you out there doing their bidding.

 

[DFries]

oh yea good thing you edited that last post, it might have you look like you really did work for TSA (are imposters exempt from the 3oz rule)

 

[AA717driver]

oh yea good thing you edited that last post, it might have you look like you really did work for TSA (are imposters exempt from the 3oz rule)

If you haven't flown for the airlines, you are probably not aware of the consequenses of a PIC allowing an unauthorized jumpseater on the aircraft. At most companies, it's more than just a slap on the wrist.

This is a real problem for airline pilots and NAA was correct to bring it up. TC

P.S.--This issue is not being taken seriously by AA. If I posted the EN's and bid statuses for pilots in the MIA domicile, for instance, I bet they'd take it seriously. Maybe it would have gotten their attention if he'd made a sexual reference in his post...

 

[ils2minimums]

P.S.--This issue is not being taken seriously by AA.

No offense meant here, but the incident just happened, so you don't know whether or not it's being taken seriously by AA. The guy is a pilot, and as such, it will simply be a matter of time before he is fu(ked over by AMR to your satisfaction (with a blind eye from APA) .

 

[DFries]

Once, after 3 days of weather I was trying to commute from BOS to EWR Last Flight out, cabin full and Cockpit JS taken. The Capt was a great guy and called the entire crew up front, he asked the FA's if any of them minded if I rode a cabin js so i could get to work. They all smiled and said it was fine. Wouldn't ya know it as soon as we landed in EWR one of 'em went and ratted him out! he got a small vacation. I understand what it takes to get to that seat, and how a little indescretion can F- it up.

It's not about being vigilant, it's about the delivery!! (of the "public service announcement") How 'bout saying Hey, everyone concerned, Keep your guard up and keep following the S.O.P. for cockpit entry....... Maybe that would have gone over a little better than throwing all the AA pilots under the bus. Last time I checked (all union bs aside) we were all on the same team.

By the way, If anyone out there has been trained in the Identification of fake documents by their airline could I get the e-mail address for your training dept?

 

[AA717driver]

ils2--Ok, let me frame this another way: This guy is a moron. He's yelling fire in a crowded theatre. He needs to have his pee-pee smacked for being a dumba$$.

Whether it involves TWA or not, it was a stupid, immature move. It does look like AMR is ignoring this because inquiries have generated NO replies.

Usually, AA fires first and asks questions later. Maybe they'll just let him go, wait till he looks crosswise at an agent then fire him for sexual harrassment...

Dfries--If your resume looks like you're a CFI, you get people to treat you like one. TC

 

[DFries]

I didn't realize My "resume" was on this site....But thats not the issue here is it? If you must know, I spent the last 12yrs in 121 as an A+P mech, now flying LR-JET I guess I guess I needed a break from all the whining

 

[NAA Pilot]

(are imposters exempt from the 3oz rule)

Are non-imposters? I'll let you answer that since I'm not jeapordizing security techniques.

One more reason to make sure these guys are who they say they are.

 

[Espalda Mojado]

Some very personal and proffesional information about 400+ AA pilots was stolen from AMR and posted on a public website. It gave employee numbers DOH, DOB, base, equipment and more.

If you get an AA jumpseater you need to either deny them or check their documentation VERY thoroughly. This is no joke. Please be careful!
Here is the website. I only post it because the info has since been removed.

ALERT, ALL AA PILOTS WILL BE DENIED ON NORTH AMERICAN!!

Hahahahaha

 

[Espalda Mojado]

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Originally Posted by DFries http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?p=1152430#post1152430http://forums.flightinfo.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
Gotta love it, sorry were gonna leave this jumpseat empty, cuz you might be an imposter. Fake Faa Pilot certificate, fake medical, Fake company ID, Fake AOA badge, fake 10 year FBI background check, snuck through security to get to the gate, Paid off the Gate Agent to get by CASS. Can't trust anyone these days!!!!

Don't forget the fake passport.....

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I heard it is a special package available only at Gulfstream Academy.

 

[DFries]

Are non-imposters? I'll let you answer that since I'm not jeapordizing security techniques

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha security techniques now thats funny!!! Dude, you have more to worry about getting hit over the head with a mop by one of those Illegal alien cleaners with the Full access Bage!!!!! Get real

 

[MEXICANFLYBOY]

hehe

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha security techniques now thats funny!!! Dude, you have more to worry about getting hit over the head with a mop by one of those Illegal alien cleaners with the Full access Bage!!!!! Get real

hehehe I got my gringo passport from a stolen wallet! hehehe, I still don't know anything from aviation! and get pay! yessssssss! everything fake! kids, wife, everything is fake! hahahaha