AA Jamaica UPDATE: Jamaican Investigator claims poor landing

[Abernathy]

Seems uncannily similar to what happened in Sao Paulo, Congonhas airport 3 years ago. Only in this case, nobody died. Lucky for them there wasn't a maint. hangar at the end of the runway.

 

[ual321]

72 mph departing the end of the runway. We should hire him!

Gup

I'm sure Joshua Woods parents find that pretty funny....

 

[SuperFLUF]

I'm sure Joshua Woods parents find that pretty funny....

Get a grip, I'm sure he's referring to the speeds they taxi at. (tounge-in-cheek)
The loss of that child was tragic, but is there an airline that's been around for as long as SWA that hasn't had an overrun?

 

[Whataburger]

Dude...just like the Auto-throttles and V-NAV....those boxes have been in this industry for more than a decade.

So, are you saying this is true:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f_DPrSEOEo

 

[Erlanger]

Latest report;

Air Traffic Control offered a circling approach to runway 30 in order to land in a headwind, the crew however declined and elected to land on runway 12 with a tailwind of 14 knots. The captain was pilot flying and used a head up display during the approach. ATC advised, that the runway was wet.

The crew gained visual contact with the runway between 1000 and 700 feet AGL and were not concerned at all with the approach. The aircraft was slightly below maximum landing weight.

The airplane touched down about 4000 feet (1220 meters) down the 8900 feet (2713 meters) long runway 12 at 162 knots ground speed (148 KIAS) in heavy rain and gusting winds and bounced before settling on the runway. Autobrakes engaged, the spoilers extended, the airplane decelerated according to an autobrakes 3 settings, the crew felt however the airplane did not decelerate and applied maximum manual braking. The airplane overran the end of the runway at a ground speed of 63 knots.

The flight data recorder indicated no anomalies with the brakes, spoilers or thrust reversers. The data indicate, deceleration was normal for a wet runway. No mechanical problems with the aircraft have been identified so far.

The ground based equipment (ILS) was checked by a check aircraft and was found working normally.

The investigation still tries to determine why the airplane landed long. Analysis of cockpit voice and flight data recorders is still ongoing. The investigation also focusses on the actual weather at the time of the accident, runway friction tests have been scheduled to start Jan 6th. Tyres, brakes and several other parts are being sent to the US for closer examination, the wreckage will also be moved to the US into a NTSB hangar though remaining under control of the Jamaican CAA.

 

[jetdawg]

may have landed at 148 kts but what was the speed when they started the flare. may have taken them half a runway to slow to 148

 

[LearDriver04]

3 "incidents" / accidents in less than a month!? AA drug a wing tip in Charlotte then this crash in Jamaica then another wing tip stike on Christmas Eve - what's going on at AA?! GOD bless the guys on this flight if they landed long, the FAA is on the war path.

 

[J.Otto]

If you miss the marker by that much knowing you accepted a tailwind....well, you shouldve known somethign wasnt right.

how feasible would it have been to go around at this juncture? wasnt this at least a possiblity especially given the condtions (gusty, rainy, non-grooved, etc.) ??

 

[aa73]

3 "incidents" / accidents in less than a month!? AA drug a wing tip in Charlotte then this crash in Jamaica then another wing tip stike on Christmas Eve - what's going on at AA?! GOD bless the guys on this flight if they landed long, the FAA is on the war path.

when it rains, it pours.... AA is not the first airline this happens to, and won't be the last. All airlines go through crappy statistic cycles. AA's just happen to be in the last 10 years. believe me, it hits home as an employee to have to read about it.

 

[redflyer65]

It would have been possible to institute a balked landing if the Thrust Reversers weren't deployed yet I believe..

The Jamacian final report will be released after the afternoon fat spliff has been passed.