A Pinnacle captain with some balls

[Propsync]

Before pointing your fingers and calling the CA a d1ck, how about these scenarios that happen on a daily basis at 9E...Loading up 50 pax, extra fuel for wx, too heavy for T.O. burn fuel to get legal after being told numerous times "you should be ok"

Give me a break, buddy. This is what we ALL get paid to do, DAILY. Deal, know your outs, be a professional.

 

[ss9e]

Came straight from the crew that it happened to. Incident was less than 24 hours old. Both Cpt and FO had same story. Both were were pretty livid but were still able to laugh about it. In short... I have no reason not to believe the story. Sorry.

they were so livid they must have forgotten how to add. the numbers from CLC and the DCA station were correct. the captain did not count one of the pax, a child, as a half weight. i guess that they were also so livid that they forgot to call dispatch on AIRINC, which the company pays for. in short...the captain is a dumba$$.

 

[Rook]

Give me a break, buddy. This is what we ALL get paid to do, DAILY. Deal, know your outs, be a professional.

How was I not being professional? I gave an example of trying to get a head start on things,talking to DX about what could be a problem and still got hosed. After a while it gets old. Lighten up Francis.

 

[405]

Came straight from the crew that it happened to. Incident was less than 24 hours old. Both Cpt and FO had same story. Both were were pretty livid but were still able to laugh about it. In short... I have no reason not to believe the story. Sorry.

I guess it really did happen then. They said it so it must be true.

I call BS on this one. J32, give us something to back the story up: The Captain or First Officer's name, a date, city pairs, anything. I really enjoy researching some of the dumb, unfounded stories I see on here about a 9E crew that did this or that or your claim, the 9E dispatcher that supposedly sent the crew this "you find it yourself" message. Most of the time the people who post this crap hear it from a guy who heard from some guy in the crew room who was in line at Starbucks who overheard a pilot talking to someone on his cell phone blah blah blah... as Morning Wood said.

Almost every time, I find the real story and it turns out be complete bullsh*t.

I hope the crew has written the dispatcher up if this really did happen.

 

[405]

Hey 405, my money says it's bullsh!t.

BTW, I wonder if the crew for this alleged event will get called in to talk to their CP? If it's a REAL case scenerio, they should.

The DCA crew might get a few stern words. That was a simple fix. A gate return, landline phone call to fix the problem and be on your way.

This dispatcher who alledgely sent the "you find an alternate yourself. you're the captain" message should be reprimanded and fired if this really happened. That is a definite safety of flight issue in my opinion.

 

[Rook]

Hey 405, my money says it's bullsh!t.

BTW, I wonder if the crew for this alleged event will get called in to talk to their CP? If it's a REAL case scenerio, they should.

Sure DX 121, but not if they have to be positive spaced down to MEM

 

[lithstrip]

To the DX's at 9E if you ever get a CA who for whatever reason you can't get a hold of, cancel his clearance, you'll get a call usually in very short order.

 

[J32driver]

I call BS on this one. J32, give us something to back the story up: The Captain or First Officer's name, a date, city pairs, anything.

BTW, I wonder if the crew for this alleged event will get called in to talk to their CP? If it's a REAL case scenerio, they should.

Put these 2 quotes together and you understand exactly why I won't get any more specific. If the Captain involved wishes to pursue this with his CP... then so be it.

they were so livid they must have forgotten how to add. the numbers from CLC and the DCA station were correct. the captain did not count one of the pax, a child, as a half weight. i guess that they were also so livid that they forgot to call dispatch on AIRINC, which the company pays for. in short...the captain is a dumba$$.

Holy crap... would you at least keep up with the conversation!!!

 

[405]

Alright, give me a city pair and a date of the event. I'll look it up myself.

I know better than ask for names. My mistake.

 

[ss9e]

Holy crap... would you at least keep up with the conversation!!![/QUOTE]


huh?

 

[J32driver]

Sorry boys... I'm not going to give you any help finding this event. If the pilots wish to take it up, they can. Thats for them to decide... certainly not me.

ss9e. My comment about them being livid was the captain with the dispatchers comments via ACARS, not the W&B problem at DCA.

 

[Markm1811]

Livid Captain...

Maybe the Capt needs to PM me.. I would love to see what he could be livid about... The Tower was mad, The station was mad, The CLC and DX's were working frantically to double, triple and quadruple check and the Capt was livid.. I would love to have a conversation regarding this.... ( Oh and I released his flights today and he never said a word...)

Midnight Brit..

 

[J32driver]

Maybe the Capt needs to PM me.. I would love to see what he could be livid about... The Tower was mad, The station was mad, The CLC and DX's were working frantically to double, triple and quadruple check and the Capt was livid.. I would love to have a conversation regarding this.... ( Oh and I released his flights today and he never said a word...)

Midnight Brit..

SWEET MUTHER OF .... YOU need to keep up with the conversation too. The "livid" remark has nothing to do with the W&B problem in DCA..... its a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CREW!!!!! Crap.... if you guys dispatch airplanes like you read the forums then all of your pilots are screwed!

 

[Markm1811]

Oic

Well I am glad you cleared that off your chest.. issues of your own with DX'rs

Sheesh someone needs a little more holding time.

nuff said...

Midnight Brit

 

[405]

Sorry boys... I'm not going to give you any help finding this event.

This comment leads me to believe that the "find your own alternate" event never happened. If it did happen, we would hear about it and so would the dumba$$ who sent the message. All of our people are still in the office working a desk. Seems like a nice attempt at a 9E flamefest, J32.

Adios, mofo.

One thought that just crossed my overworked brain: Maybe management won't reprimand the dummy who supposedly sent this message to the crew because we can't even fill up a dispatch office with qualified people or as management calls them, "bodies". We don't have enough "bodies" to do our job. Who cares anyway? Management obviously doesn't.

 

[J32driver]

Sorry Pal... I have nothing personal against 9E and a flamefest isn't my style. Just repeating a story that a 9E crew told while riding in van.... DOWN BY THE RIVER!

 

[405]

J32, nothing personal but the ACARS story is just plain bullsh!t. No offense intended.

Back to the cell phone issue. Since the "out of pocket" expenses is such a big deal to you guys, I'd stop driving to and eating at work since that comes out of your own pocket.

Don't use your cell phones. Stop eating also. Maybe you'll all be too weak to fly at some point and we can cancel your flight. That's fine with me. Make your own life hell. Doesn't matter to me at all.

 

[J32driver]

Since the "out of pocket" expenses is such a big deal to you guys, I'd stop driving to and eating at work since that comes out of your own pocket.

Ahh... I love the internet. Where else can you actually make a completely incohesive argument and hope the world won't notice.

 

[PCL_128]

Back to the cell phone issue. Since the "out of pocket" expenses is such a big deal to you guys, I'd stop driving to and eating at work since that comes out of your own pocket.

Meals, tips, and other incidentals are payed for with per diem, so the company is paying for that already.

 

[jackbo]

Maybe you'll all be too weak to fly at some point and we can cancel your flight. That's fine with me.

405 - is nwa still running your soc? after the christmas debacle they had to take over or you guys would have been in an even bigger mess.

i wouldn't talk crap because the 9e soc is about the biggest cluster-f this industry has ever seen. you may not believe j32 but don't act like you morons aren't capable of such a classless move.