a few Eagle ?'s

[aland504]

hey everyone. i was thinking of applying to eagle. just looking for some advice. the website says reserve for the first 6-12 months. is that a reasonable estimate? also they say you can pick you domicle. can you pick your equipment too? do they have jr. assigning? guarenteed number of days off for line holders? over all what do you think of the company? and as far as travel benefits are concerned do you know if they acknowledge domestic partnerships? thanks for any info!

 

[Flyby1206]

hey everyone. i was thinking of applying to eagle. just looking for some advice. the website says reserve for the first 6-12 months. is that a reasonable estimate? also they say you can pick you domicle. can you pick your equipment too? do they have jr. assigning? guarenteed number of days off for line holders? over all what do you think of the company? and as far as travel benefits are concerned do you know if they acknowledge domestic partnerships? thanks for any info!

RSV for props usually 1-2 months, jet BOS/LGA 4-6 months, ORD 6-9months, DFW 1yr+. They just started allowing newhires to pick a domicile and then wait for a classdate. I am not sure if they allow you to pick equip as well, worth applying and asking them when you get the call. They have jr assigning, you get 150% of your hourly pay for it. Minimum 11 days off on RSV, 12 for lineholders. Overall its a stable company, perhaps too stable. Decent pay, contract, but not the best or worst. Travel benefits kick in day 1 of training and i think they do domestic partnerships.

 

[Starscream]

hey everyone. i was thinking of applying to eagle. just looking for some advice. the website says reserve for the first 6-12 months. is that a reasonable estimate? also they say you can pick you domicle. can you pick your equipment too? do they have jr. assigning? guarenteed number of days off for line holders? over all what do you think of the company? and as far as travel benefits are concerned do you know if they acknowledge domestic partnerships? thanks for any info!

Hey...........

1. Reserve length depends greatly on equipment/domicile. If you go to the DFW/SF3 or SJU/ATR, you'll be off reserve almost instantly (MIA/ATR and LAX/SF3 might be a little longer because they're more senior). DFW EMJ reserve is something like a year and a half. ORD/LGA if I'm not wrong guys are getting off reserve right around a year, in BOS it's probably a little over 6 months.

2. At this point, the whole chosing domicile experiment is in its infancy, so no one quite knows how exactly the process works, but supposedly the days of being surprised on day 1 are over. I think they'll just let you pick you domicile, not equipment (besides, year 1 pay of the prop is equal to the jet). Seat lock is 1 year, and you cannot bid prop to prop, jet to jet, or jet to prop. You can only go prop to jet.

3. Do we have junior manning? Does the pope have a bible?? In all seriousness, I think everyone except CHQ has this. Here, JM'ing isn't so much about seniority as much as it is about being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I've been at AE 2 1/2 years, and have only been JM once due to staffing. The other times it was getting stuck at an outstation on my last day.

4. RSV gets 11 days off. Comp/RLF line also gets 11. Line holders get anywhere from 12 to 19. Most lines are built 80-85 hrs.

5. OK company to work for. If you just lay low, come in fly your trips and go home, it's as good a regional job as any. Our only real drawback versus other regionals is the loooong upgrade time, but with AA recalling the flowbacks and the legacies slowly starting to hire again, the upgrade time has nowhere to go but down. A lot of us are hoping that the post 9/11 crowd will see roughly 4 1/2 years to the left seat (as a TP CA). We'll see........

6. Travel benefits are good. The only thing that stinks is that AMR charges us roughly 10-15 dollars one way to non-rev domestically. But you can jumpseat on other airlines for free. As for the whole domestic partner thing, I'm prettys sure you get to register one.

Hope this helps.............

Need a referral? ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) :angryfire :angryfire (jk btw)

 

[OPECJet]

$10 - $15 each way to commute?

 

[8AF]

$10 - $15 each way to commute?

Actually based on mileage. e.g. DFW - SFO $13.51, DFW - SJC $13.38 First Class DFW-SJC $26.31
Int'l will charge customs fee and tax
Jumpseat (free) YYZ-DFW $14.60

Charges waived with more than 5 years of service.

 

[pacsky72]

45 CA slots open in next bid at Eagle. Maybe typical at other regionals, but this hasn't happened in a long time at AE. This is just the beginning!

A VACANCY/DISPLACEMENT BID IS OPEN EFF <12 FEB 2007>:
*VACANCIES* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN*
<03 DFW-FO-CRJ <31 AUG 07
<04 ORD-FO-CRJ <31 AUG 07
<07 DFW-CA-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<05 DFW-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<03 LAX-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<23 ORD-CA EMJ <31 AUG 07
<12 ORD-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<03 MIA-FO-ATR <31 AUG 07
<03 SJU-FO-ATR <31 AUG 07
<14 DFW-CA-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<06 DFW-FO-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<01 LAX-CA-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<02 LAX-FO-SF3 <31 AUG 07

 

[spooler]

What's the typical schedule like out of MIA on the ATR? (If there is such a thing)

 

[Flyby1206]

Looking at the MIA ATR bid packet this month looks like lots of 4-day trips and 2-day back to backs. Here is a 2-day and a 4-day that looks typical:

TU 4937 MIA-EYW 1640 1745 105 25 ATQ
TU 4938 EYW-MIA 1810 1905 55 40 ATQ
TU 4997 MIA-NAS 1945 2105 120 ATQ 320 0 320 0 540 NAS 905
D-END: 2135L (NR 900) REPT: 0640L WYNDHAM NASSAU RESORT (242) 327-6818
WE 5003 NAS-FLL 0725 0840 115 30 ATQ
WE 5004 FLL-NAS 0910 1025 115 45 ATQ
WE 4930 NAS-MIA 1110 1225 115 ATQ 345 0 345 0 600
D-END: 1240L --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 705 T.A.F.B. 2045 ATQ> 7:05

MO 5011 MIA-RSW 1155 1250 55 30 ATQ
MO 5012 RSW-MIA 1320 1415 55 50 ATQ
MO 4991 MIA-NAS 1505 1625 120 35 ATQ
MO 4994 NAS-MIA 1700 1820 120 140 ATQ
MO 4941 MIA-EYW 2000 2100 100 ATQ 530 0 530 0 1005 EYW 1640
D-END: 2115L (NR 900) REPT: 1355L CROWNE PLAZA LA CONCHA (305) 296-2991
TU 4934 EYW-MIA 1440 1540 100 110 ATQ
TU 5013 MIA-RSW 1650 1745 55 30 ATQ
TU 5014 RSW-MIA 1815 1910 55 120 ATQ
TU 4949 MIA-FPO 2030 2130 100 ATQ 350 0 350 0 805 FPO 845
D-END: 2200L (RR 800) REPT: 0645L PELICAN BAY HOTEL (242) 373-9550
WE 4950 FPO-MIA 0730 0830 100 140 ATQ
WE 4965 MIA-RSW 1010 1110 100 30 ATQ
WE 4966 RSW-MIA 1140 1235 55 35 ATQ
WE 4933 MIA-EYW 1310 1410 100 ATQ 355 0 355 0 740 EYW 1510
D-END: 1425L (CR 1000) REPT: 0535L CROWNE PLAZA LA CONCHA (305) 296-2991
TH 4940 EYW-MIA 0620 0715 55 125 ATQ
TH 4971 MIA-NAS 0840 0955 115 40 ATQ
TH 4982 NAS-FLL 1035 1155 120 35 ATQ
TH 4983 FLL-NAS 1230 1345 115 45 ATQ
TH 4974 NAS-MIA 1430 1550 120 ATQ 605 0 605 0 1030
D-END: 1605L --------------------------------------
TOTALS BLOCK 1920 T.A.F.B. 7655 ATQ>19:20

 

[flyboyzz1]

are there any day trips out of ORD?

 

[Flyby1206]

are there any day trips out of ORD?

Chicago has a massive amount of flying, but for the EMJ and CRJ there arent many day trip lines at all. Maybe 5-10 lines on the ERJ (250 total lines) and 2-3 on the CRJ (43 lines total)

 

[flyboyzz1]

Chicago has a massive amount of flying, but for the EMJ and CRJ there arent many day trip lines at all.

I see... well two day trips?

 

[Flyby1206]

I see... well two day trips?

A little less than half the lines are 2-day trips, the rest are mostly 4-day trips, with a few 3-days in there.

 

[CX880]

I really don't think base assignment is the major issue as to why they're aren't getting pilots. Look at mesa they even wait after training. Unless they find a way to drop their upgrades to at least 3-4 years there is no way they're going to have 700 pilots by the end of the year.

 

[Starscream]

45 CA slots open in next bid at Eagle. Maybe typical at other regionals, but this hasn't happened in a long time at AE. This is just the beginning!

A VACANCY/DISPLACEMENT BID IS OPEN EFF <12 FEB 2007>:
*VACANCIES* *ENTER TRAINING NO LATER THAN*
<03 DFW-FO-CRJ <31 AUG 07
<04 ORD-FO-CRJ <31 AUG 07
<07 DFW-CA-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<05 DFW-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<03 LAX-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<23 ORD-CA EMJ <31 AUG 07
<12 ORD-FO-EMJ <31 AUG 07
<03 MIA-FO-ATR <31 AUG 07
<03 SJU-FO-ATR <31 AUG 07
<14 DFW-CA-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<06 DFW-FO-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<01 LAX-CA-SF3 <31 AUG 07
<02 LAX-FO-SF3 <31 AUG 07

YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!! THAT'S WHAT THE F#$K I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!!!!! LET'S SEE SOME MORE OF THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'm just afraid next month's vacancy bid will have like 5 upgrades or something ridiculous like that. Hours after AA's recalls were announced a company e-mail promised upgrades and movements, and not long after that a vacancy bid came out with 0 CA upgrades. We'll see........)

 

[flyboyzz1]

I really don't think base assignment is the major issue as to why they're aren't getting pilots. Look at mesa they even wait after training. Unless they find a way to drop their upgrades to at least 3-4 years there is no way they're going to have 700 pilots by the end of the year.

true that... how do they make that happen though? They aren't going to get any more planes right?

 

[CitationLover]

true that... how do they make that happen though? They aren't going to get any more planes right?

they can't even staff the planes they have now and you want more?!?!?!

 

[flyboyzz1]

no just wondering how it will go from 8 years to 3-4... just attrition?

 

[av8tor19]

When I was hired in '98, they told me CA in 8 years. It took a year to go to 3-4. Then it took another 6 months to get to 1.5. When it turned around, it turned fast.

They have to replace at a minimun 40/month for flow-backs. That dosen't account for normal attrition.

I know the company is trying to bring another 10 Saabs out of the desert.

 

[Mustang5.0]

no just wondering how it will go from 8 years to 3-4... just attrition?

because there was a big gap in hiring from 01' to 04' will all the 9/11 issues....once the last of the 01' guys upgrade...it will instantly go to the 04' guys, so the upgrade won't be nearly as long for the more recently hired... "hopefully":cartman:

 

[Tryful]

Just our of sheer curiosity, are there any SF3 pilots based out of LAX? I'd like to talk to you if I could and get the skinny as this preferential base hiring tacked with upgrades happening Eagle could be a good place for me.

 

[CitationLover]

there are roughly 325 flowbies on property according to the last ALPA conf call. these 325 all leave still only moves the numbers to the mid 1800's.

now those 7-8 yr fo's will never leave. attrition right now is those on probation leaving. i am not seeing a lot of eagle rights CA's leaving.

 

[drpilot]

Total hours in 90 days

Are they still looking for pilot's that have so many hours in 90 Ect? Or will they interview if you are current and have alot more then the total time they are lookings for? I have 1980TT and 170ME but have not been flying all that much and the last couple of years. I am IFR current and been flying a sim and airplane on my own to keep proficient. I am also current CFI CFII and MEI.
Thanks
Dr

 

[8AF]

Are they still looking for pilot's that have so many hours in 90 Ect? Or will they interview if you are current and have alot more then the total time they are lookings for? I have 1980TT and 170ME but have not been flying all that much and the last couple of years. I am IFR current and been flying a sim and airplane on my own to keep proficient. I am also current CFI CFII and MEI.
Thanks
Dr

They will hire you in a heartbeat with your time if you can fog the mirror. The mim is much lower now.

 

[jrmiller92]

Any chance for a Riddle grad with 400TT/240 Multi?

 

[G2T]

Any chance for a Riddle grad with 400TT/240 Multi?

Yup, apply here:

http://www.aviationjobsonline.com/ptscfi/4cfi98.html

 

[jrmiller92]

Funny...fortunately I am already employed...just looking to get into something else

 

[bizzum]

Funny...fortunately I am already employed...just looking to get into something else

I don't think it was meant as a joke......

 

[A300FE]

They will hire you in a heartbeat with your time if you can fog the mirror. The mim is much lower now.

I applied with 2100TT + 1400 Fe time. 600ME, 60 Turbojet. ATP with B737 type rating. I was furloughed at the time of application, but was current. They sent me an email saying that I needed "a current flying job" to apply. Go figure.

Fortunately I am already employed. Got my ATR 42/72 SIC type couple of weeks ago.

 

[8AF]

I applied with 2100TT + 1400 Fe time. 600ME, 60 Turbojet. ATP with B737 type rating. I was furloughed at the time of application, but was current. They sent me an email saying that I needed "a current flying job" to apply. Go figure.

Fortunately I am already employed. Got my ATR 42/72 SIC type couple of weeks ago.

So u applied before they lower the mins a few days ago?

 

[pacsky72]

there are roughly 325 flowbies on property according to the last ALPA conf call. these 325 all leave still only moves the numbers to the mid 1800's.

There are a LOT of current FO's that will not put in for a CA upgrade the moment they can hold it. If you live in ORD and their are 20 SAAB CA spots open in DFW or LAX, guaranteed the spots will go to a lot of more junior people. I for one, would not bid CA when my number could hold it unless I could keep my base and QOL.