A Combined United/Continental Contract

[Jetjockey]

Percentage seems the fairest way.

 

[Jaffo]

Why does someone bring up DOH every time a merger possibility is mentioned. It isn't part of the ALPA merger policy and, frankly, makes about as much sense as integrating based on flight time. A merger is not a lottery ticket for some to prosper at the expense of others. If you are an FO before a merger you should be an FO after the merger, if you could reasonably expect to upgrade in a certain amount of time before the merger you should reasonably expect to upgrade in about the same amount of time after the merger.

Union leaders need to educate people what to expect so they can focus on important things like scope, work rules, and pay (in that order). A merger is an opportunity for pilots to get their house in order so they can have real leverage during the next round of negotiating.

DrewBlows for president!!!

 

[fokker pilot]

I hope the CAL pilots look at what the UAL pilots did to their ALPA brothers at Air Wisconsin in 1992.

 

[pipe]

Senior CAL pilots selling junior CAL pilots down the river for their own benefit would not surprise me at all. It has pretty much become tradition here. I just hope us junior CAL pilots can get organized and vocal.

Don't worry. It's traditional everywhere.

PIPE

 

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Why does someone bring up DOH every time a merger possibility is mentioned. It isn't part of the ALPA merger policy and, frankly, makes about as much sense as integrating based on flight time. A merger is not a lottery ticket for some to prosper at the expense of others. If you are an FO before a merger you should be an FO after the merger, if you could reasonably expect to upgrade in a certain amount of time before the merger you should reasonably expect to upgrade in about the same amount of time after the merger.

Union leaders need to educate people what to expect so they can focus on important things like scope, work rules, and pay (in that order). A merger is an opportunity for pilots to get their house in order so they can have real leverage during the next round of negotiating.

That's a great utopian theory - one with which I wholeheartedly agree.

The rub is this: the airline almost always drops in total size after the combination. That means that someone loses seniority, someone loses career expectation, and at the next downturn (which is well underway), someone loses their job.

Each MEC is obligated to try and make sure it's not their folks that take those consequences. Until the carriers are combined, and the MEC's are combined, that's their responsibility.

PIPE

 

[pipe]

I hope the CAL pilots look at what the UAL pilots did to their ALPA brothers at Air Wisconsin in 1992.

YEAH!!!

CAL has been the ALPA stalwart since Dave Behnke was in diapers. They should show those guys how real union brotherhood works!

PIPE

(Dripping with sarcasm)
note added for the sarcasm impaired that always seem to show up on FI