600 hours and frusterated

[smellthejeta]

I'm confused. Is it suck it up and pay your dues -- you need to work long hours for no pay all in the name of experience, or is it hold the bar and don't vote for any concessions?

The painful truth of the entire matter is that a pilot will ultimately get paid what BK judge decides he should get paid. It doesn't matter what he wants, what ALPA wants, and to some extent, what management wants -- what the BK judge decides the pilot will get paid is what the pilot will get paid.

 

[Papps]

Mar your bumming me out with that sacrifice and life is hard stuff. You need to listen to buffet and smoke a doobie.

 

[mar]

Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt

I'm confused. Is it suck it up and pay your dues -- you need to work long hours for no pay all in the name of experience, or is it hold the bar and don't vote for any concessions?

Not all pilots are created equal.

Not all contracts are equal.

Some pilots need to just STFU, suck it up and pay their dues while others need to hold the line and stand united.

Knowing the difference is the key to distinguishing the wannabe from the professional.

Now where's my spliff mahn.

 

[SpatialD]

Good answer, mar.

 

[siucavflight]

7500 hours and more frustrated than you can imagine.

Get out now. AT 21 believe me, you have nothing to lose. The effort it took you to get those 600 hours seems like a lot, and in a way it is, but it pales in comparison to what you should expect by continuing to persue this "profession". Just my two cents.

If flying is what you love dont listen to this fool, he is jaded by the industry. I have only around 2200 hrs, I love what I do and make in the low 6 figures for doing it. Stick with it.

 

[Tired Soul]

Maybe you should just quit crying you baby..too sexy for your Cessna huh?
600 hrs Please...:bawling:
If you're frustrated already go do something else and do everybody a favour.
Had the pleasure of dealing with one of you spineless cry babies a couple of weeks ago.
700 hrs and not willing to commit to anything ...'cause the airlines might be calling' .......true his very words.
And expecting me to give him a job and be thankfull that Mr Airline guy is willing to fly for us.
DIPSTICK:uzi:

 

[SCT]

I'm glad these 600 hr "aviators" have it all figured out in aviation........because I just passed 5,000 hrs and I'm still learning new stuff in the cockpit! (But maybe I am just slowwwww...)

I do KNOW in this business though, that you have to be humble and willing to learn with out the attitude.

Good luck,

 

[Papps]

2000 hours and low 6 figures, are you flying dope, because thats all i can think of.

 

[pilotyip]

Go to a regional as fast as you can. You will be logging MEL turbine SIC at the rate of 50-100 hours per month. In one year you will have enough resume fluff to give you a lot more options. It is part of what they call paying your dues. If you want to be a pilot you can make it. If you want the college degree to become a whatever, get out of flying go to school full time, develop a skill that has a market and work in cube for the rest of your life. I strongly believe that $100K is a very achievable wage for anyone in aviation degreed or not. Only on a pilot board would $100K per year be scoffed at as whore wages and lowering the bar in the pilot profession, of course you should not introduce reality to this board it only brings on screams and bashing.

 

[SCT]

Papps,

I was thinking the same thing.........2,200 hrs and 6 figures doesn't add up!

Where do I apply for that job?

SCT

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

My $.02...

Relax. You are 21 years old and you have a whole lot of time to succeed in front of you. The folks telling you to pay your dues are correct. As a matter of fact this whole business is about paying dues, I am still paying mine in spades. First you pay your dues to become an regional FO. Then you pay more waiting for the time and seniority to upgrade. More dues are paid as a new captian trying to not screw up and get enough time to quilify for a major. It doesn't stop when you get to that major becuase now you are paying dues for more days off and better paying equipment. Come to think of it, the process doesn't really stop until you turn 60 and it is all over. It is up to you to decide if it is worth it.

I remember being in your very position not so long ago. I remember saying to all my freinds that if I could just get an airline or corporate job, I would be happy. You won't be. This job comes with all kinds of its own frustrations. Just wait until you add a wife and a couple of kids to the equation to see just how frustrating things can really be.

If you want to be in the flying biz, be patient and learn to enjoy where you are at the time you are there. Looking back, some my best times where instructing or flying little crappy airplanes in even crappier weather. Have fun. You're 21 and have a paying flying job. Lots of folks would love to have just that.

If you can't enjoy where you are while striving for the brass ring, whatever that might be to you, then do yourself a favor and get into another line of work.

Good luck.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

2000 hours and low 6 figures, are you flying dope, because thats all i can think of.

Or he has a killer set of knee pads.

 

[siucavflight]

Papps,

I was thinking the same thing.........2,200 hrs and 6 figures doesn't add up!

Where do I apply for that job?

SCT

The right corporations will pay well, and treat you even better. If you love what you do it will show through to your potential employer and they will take care of you.


But I dont actually make 6 figures, I was exagerating a lot.

 

[Papps]

yeah that sounded like heavy pay for a low time guy like me or you (ive got about 4 thousand which isnt as much as you thought it would be when you cracked 250 durring your commercial). Just take your age and multiply by 1000, that should be your aviation income. After you figure that out, then ask your mom and dad to avoid turning your old bedroom into an office. Then finally figure out what lies you are going to need to get a chick from the bar to come home and get freaky even though you have a few "older roomates" sleeping in the house. God I cant believe how hard earned that knowledge is.....

 

[talespin]

Papps you know better than that! You don't have to go to the bar anymore! Your an airline pilot, we stay at the nicest place, make a mint, and have babes dropping to thier knees at our feet. This kid has every reason to be pissed, he has 600 hours and none of the perks. Take your 600 hours and go sh!t in your hat.