30 E-175 for Mesa

[brokedash]

To be fair, it's CO people at the helm, and they have no experience with them.

And JO briefly worked for CO....

 

[brokedash]

FYI Mesa has also signed up for 700mil. in additional loans to buy another airline. My money is on Eagle.

Source? If ture I could vouch for what remains of wholly owned Eagle, but could also see US pawning off Peidmont and PSA on MAG.

 

[labbats]

http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/9-2013MAG-Contract-Comparison.pdf

I anxiously await the spin on this document from management/Rene.

 

[Poahi]

I'm sure Mesa is going to find hundreds of 1500 hr ATP's and pump them through the training cycle without impacting performance. Maybe that will trigger some memories....

 

[rene]

Source please

Thats a lot of $$$ did'nt SkyWest buy XJT for under 200 mill...??...

Do you have any source for this rumor? I call BS

 

[Nevets]

Do you have any source for this rumor? I call BS

It's in a press release. Skywest inc paid $133 million. More than XJT had in the bank!

http://inc.skywest.com/invest/investor_releases/XJTAnnounceFinal8.2.10.pdf

In all seriousness, I can't confirm or deny the rumor because this is the first I've heard of it.. But I hope it's true. And congrats to Mesa, btw.

 

[rene]

Me too

http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/9-2013MAG-Contract-Comparison.pdf

I anxiously await the spin on this document from management/Rene.

I think it might have something to do with seniority. Mesa pilots earn real dollars, not scale dollars. I am not certain but I was told there were 130 pilots in 2013 who will earn more than $120,000.

 

[Raoul Duke]

http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/9-2013MAG-Contract-Comparison.pdf

I anxiously await the spin on this document from management/Rene.

How is that relevant - it does not even have PNCL in the comparison. Not particularly impressive

 

[sniper]

Can someone help me with the math. 30 New Aircraft for UAL, 20 New Aircraft for US Airways at 10 pilots per aircraft = 500 pilots, plus hiring for 117 rules, plus attrition = 750 new pilots. This will mean that every FO on the property will have a chance to upgrade. It may also be worth noting that there were no concessions. Even during the chapter 11 there was never a word about an 1113 contract rejection. Does this make Mesa the only airline to go through Chapter 11 without reducing its labor costs? The best operating performance for three years and now 500 additional pilots? just saying?

thank your previous mec for not selling out to skywest when the offer was on the table and you had nothing to do with the 1113 since the creditors commitee never considered it with the current mesa pay....


let the truth be known

 

[rene]

Bs

It's in a press release. Skywest inc paid $133 million. More than XJT had in the bank!

http://inc.skywest.com/invest/investor_releases/XJTAnnounceFinal8.2.10.pdf

In all seriousness, I can't confirm or deny the rumor because this is the first I've heard of it.. But I hope it's true. And congrats to Mesa, btw.

I am calling BS on the rumor that Mesa borrowed $750 million. It is simply not true?

 

[rene]

Truth

thank your previous mec for not selling out to skywest when the offer was on the table and you had nothing to do with the 1113 since the creditors commitee never considered it with the current mesa pay....


let the truth be known

You have no idea what you are talking about? There was never an 1113 proposal to consider, and there was most certainly pressure to consider one. The ONLY airline BK to not include an 1113 is just a fact. Lots of changes could have been made but were not. Just saying

 

[sniper]

I think it might have something to do with seniority. Mesa pilots earn real dollars, not scale dollars. I am not certain but I was told there were 130 pilots in 2013 who will earn more than $120,000.

so whats your point? they have been there over 20 years

come on find something better to argue about

 

[rene]

My point?

so whats your point? they have been there over 20 years

come on find something better to argue about

They make more than $120,000 per year. They love their job, and we are getting annual increases? What is so confusing? Better to grow than go out of business, as many would wish?

 

[sniper]

You have no idea what you are talking about? There was never an 1113 proposal to consider, and there was most certainly pressure to consider one. The ONLY airline BK to not include an 1113 is just a fact. Lots of changes could have been made but were not. Just saying

you did not ask for 1113 because you had no chance with the crediitors committee thats why you ask for a paycut directly to the mec and they told you to go pounf sand

i know very well what i am talking about.

now settle the contract you have been negotiating for 3 years and move on

make sure you dont make the same mistakes you did in the past

 

[sniper]

They make more than $120,000 per year. They love their job, and we are getting annual increases? What is so confusing? Better to grow than go out of business, as many would wish?

management screw ups and lawsuits with the fiasco in hawaii almost put mesa out of business . not the pilots